Football College athletes on their way to a union. - Page 12

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-26-2014, 01:02 PM

Wow RT @CEmmaScout: @CAPAssociation wins its case at the NLRB. College athletes on their way to a union.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 26, 2014

Mosbonian · 03-27-2014, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Bob Dole doesn't like the NBA because they do not enforce the rules of basketball.

I'm with you on this one....I went to my first NBA game in 3 years when I went to see the Pacers and Milwaukee play a few weeks back.

What they were playing out there didn't seem to be basketball according to the rules that I remember.

13and3 · 03-27-2014, 09:56 AM

Ok, for all you haters out there, I am a hater too and that is how I know what you are truly feeling inside. Here is a little insight on why I am for these players getting coin. It is a purely egotistical and selfish reason, not unlike a lot of you who want the opposite.

Some years ago I while I was attending UMKC school of engineering, a pretty hot girl would sit beside me in English class and we would chat. I would attend school all day 8am to 9pm Tues and Thurs and then have to go to work Mon, Wed, Sat, and Sun, to support myself. Just so happened we got paired up on some lame as research paper. The only day I had free was Friday so I told her we need to get together that day to make this thing happen. She told me it was no way for her to make it to the library because she just had to attend Mike Washington's party. Who in the **** is Mike Washington, I asked her. " You don't know who Mike Washington is? She replied." come to find out and for those who don't remember he was the star basketball player for the Roos. Needless to say I did the paper myself and she got the credit.

I had to work to support myself through school, Mike Washington had a scholarship, and all the girls because he could dribble a damn basketball. Now a days I have a degree in engineering, have my own company, married and make more than a 100 grand a year.

I look back and realize now, growing up in the hood I was around lots of Mike Washingtons in my childhood. From my perspective They hung out way to much on the basketball court. They lost lots of valuable time studying, doing chores, or cutting grass and finding some way of earning some money. Most have ended up in either in jail, dead or still on those street corners and playgrounds. What I have now is better than what he had then, and I can live with that. So while they get all the attention, free school, and girls. Most aren't smart enough to make it count later in life. I am going to do my own thing and let them do theirs. Im not going to hate on some dumb college athlete because he can get paid now, that's way to petty for me. In the end I am living the good life, a job that offers the satisfaction of actually producing something the world needs, a family I love, a nice house in a good neighborhood, and a decent ride. In the end I could care less if the student athlete got paid or not, It just bothers me that people hold the basketball player rapper types in such high regard that them having a little money in their pocket makes them feel less secure, so they come up with lots of lame paper thin reasons why they should be happy with what the school gives them. What they are really saying he has more than what I had in school and I cant stand the idea of him having more. If that is the case you are still in competition with the Mike Washingtons of the world. Im my opinion **** him, **** Wiggins, **** Beasly, **** Embiid, and who ever the next major recruit is. It makes no difference, I still have to get up and go to work in the morning, and cut the grass on Sundays before the Chiefs Game. Why do we even care what some 18 year old kid does with a Basketball, he doesn't even know you exist, just as I am sure Mike Washington didn't miss me at his party. All I am asking is quit spouting out all this bullshit and own your own truth, and to all you English majors out there who are going to piss on my grammatical skills with regard to this post **** you too.

Mosbonian · 03-27-2014, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Your argument is complete bullshit. You basically stated that the majority of college sports fans are priveledged white people who don't want to see the poor black athlete make money so that these white people can continue to look down on these athletes and feel some sort of superiority to them.

You also said the majority of black college athletes would be in prison or dead if they didn't have the ability to play ball. I knew many black athletes when I went to college and I guarantee you that many of them are smarter than you and had aspirations outside of sports.

Your argument about how most college basketball fans don't like the NBA and that this is because the NBA looks thuggish with all the tatted up players and also that they are getting paid millions of dollars is rubbish. Personally, I don't like the NBA because they don't play basketball the way I like to see it played. Too much of 4 players standing around while one player goes one on one against a defender. I never think about what a certain player is making or concern myself with how many tattoos they have or if they have dreadlocks or not.

Please feel free to continue on with your blatant stupidity though. It has been mildly entertaining.

Rep....well said.

13and3 · 03-27-2014, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Your argument is complete bullshit. You basically stated that the majority of college sports fans are priveledged white people who don't want to see the poor black athlete make money so that these white people can continue to look down on these athletes and feel some sort of superiority to them.

You also said the majority of black college athletes would be in prison or dead if they didn't have the ability to play ball. I knew many black athletes when I went to college and I guarantee you that many of them are smarter than you and had aspirations outside of sports.

Your argument about how most college basketball fans don't like the NBA and that this is because the NBA looks thuggish with all the tatted up players and also that they are getting paid millions of dollars is rubbish. Personally, I don't like the NBA because they don't play basketball the way I like to see it played. Too much of 4 players standing around while one player goes one on one against a defender. I never think about what a certain player is making or concern myself with how many tattoos they have or if they have dreadlocks or not.

Please feel free to continue on with your blatant stupidity though. It has been mildly entertaining.

I know lots of post successful college athletes too. They work for Eneterprise rental.

Mosbonian · 03-27-2014, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13and3

Ok, for all you haters out there, I am a hater too and that is how I know what you are truly feeling inside..

I am pretty sure you lost many when you lead off with this...

Mosbonian · 03-27-2014, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13and3

I know lots of post successful college athletes too. They work for Eneterprise rental.

You watch too many commercials.

mikey23545 · 03-27-2014, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

People need to stop citing the full ride scholarships as some great benefit that should keep the students happy and grateful. The "free" education they receive can be taken away at any time because of their abilities on the field or not complying with some other ridiculous rule. As far as I know, none of them are guaranteed a free, four year education (perhaps some are?). That argument that it is adequate "compensation" is ridiculous since there is no guarantee that they will all get a free education since it is dependent upon their athletics.

Also, we know they spend a ton of time on the field practicing basically year round. Some of them probably don't care about their major because they intend to go pro, but plenty of them would surely choose a more difficult major if given the time to actually do the work and learn it at an adequate level.

Oh, you mean like all the rest of us who can be fired from our jobs because of poor performance?

mr. tegu · 03-27-2014, 10:11 AM

If receiving the free education is completely dependent upon the athletics, the ability to stay healthy, follow every rule, and maintain good productivity in competition, which of athletics and academics is truly the more important focus? (Hint: there is only one correct answer)

13and3 · 03-27-2014, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

You watch too many commercials.

No really, it not just a commercial it is true.

mikey23545 · 03-27-2014, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

"You get a free, full ride, four year scholarship. But it is only for a year at a time. Oh, and make sure you don't get injured either!"

They get free medical care, unlike a lot of us poor saps working for a living.

mr. tegu · 03-27-2014, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545

Oh, you mean like all the rest of us who can be fired from our jobs because of poor performance?

Is their athletics a job now?

mikey23545 · 03-27-2014, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

People need to stop citing the full ride scholarships as some great benefit that should keep the students happy and grateful. The "free" education they receive can be taken away at any time because of their abilities on the field or not complying with some other ridiculous rule. As far as I know, none of them are guaranteed a free, four year education (perhaps some are?). That argument that it is adequate "compensation" is ridiculous since there is no guarantee that they will all get a free education since it is dependent upon their athletics.

Also, we know they spend a ton of time on the field practicing basically year round. Some of them probably don't care about their major because they intend to go pro, but plenty of them would surely choose a more difficult major if given the time to actually do the work and learn it at an adequate level.

Then why don't they eschew football and pursue their academic aims if that is their desire?

mikey23545 · 03-27-2014, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Is their athletics a job now?

That's what you're comparing it to.

mr. tegu · 03-27-2014, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545

They get free medical care, unlike a lot of us poor saps working for a living.

They get free medical care while on scholarship. What about when it is taken away because of the injury?

mikey23545 · 03-27-2014, 10:17 AM

Oh, and at my job I never got free lodging, all meals and medical care...I would hate to think of what all that totals up to for those poor, poor "slaves" toiling away at the game of football...

03-26-2014, 01:02 PM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3556009	College athletes on their way to a union. Wow RT @CEmmaScout: @CAPAssociation wins its case at the NLRB. College athletes on their way to a union. — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 26, 2014
Posts: 23,755

03-27-2014, 09:56 AM	#167
13and3 R8R H8R Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $9996027	Ok, for all you haters out there, I am a hater too and that is how I know what you are truly feeling inside. Here is a little insight on why I am for these players getting coin. It is a purely egotistical and selfish reason, not unlike a lot of you who want the opposite. Some years ago I while I was attending UMKC school of engineering, a pretty hot girl would sit beside me in English class and we would chat. I would attend school all day 8am to 9pm Tues and Thurs and then have to go to work Mon, Wed, Sat, and Sun, to support myself. Just so happened we got paired up on some lame as research paper. The only day I had free was Friday so I told her we need to get together that day to make this thing happen. She told me it was no way for her to make it to the library because she just had to attend Mike Washington's party. Who in the ** is Mike Washington, I asked her. " You don't know who Mike Washington is? She replied." come to find out and for those who don't remember he was the star basketball player for the Roos. Needless to say I did the paper myself and she got the credit. I had to work to support myself through school, Mike Washington had a scholarship, and all the girls because he could dribble a damn basketball. Now a days I have a degree in engineering, have my own company, married and make more than a 100 grand a year. I look back and realize now, growing up in the hood I was around lots of Mike Washingtons in my childhood. From my perspective They hung out way to much on the basketball court. They lost lots of valuable time studying, doing chores, or cutting grass and finding some way of earning some money. Most have ended up in either in jail, dead or still on those street corners and playgrounds. What I have now is better than what he had then, and I can live with that. So while they get all the attention, free school, and girls. Most aren't smart enough to make it count later in life. I am going to do my own thing and let them do theirs. Im not going to hate on some dumb college athlete because he can get paid now, that's way to petty for me. In the end I am living the good life, a job that offers the satisfaction of actually producing something the world needs, a family I love, a nice house in a good neighborhood, and a decent ride. In the end I could care less if the student athlete got paid or not, It just bothers me that people hold the basketball player rapper types in such high regard that them having a little money in their pocket makes them feel less secure, so they come up with lots of lame paper thin reasons why they should be happy with what the school gives them. What they are really saying he has more than what I had in school and I cant stand the idea of him having more. If that is the case you are still in competition with the Mike Washingtons of the world. Im my opinion him, Wiggins, Beasly, Embiid, and who ever the next major recruit is. It makes no difference, I still have to get up and go to work in the morning, and cut the grass on Sundays before the Chiefs Game. Why do we even care what some 18 year old kid does with a Basketball, he doesn't even know you exist, just as I am sure Mike Washington didn't miss me at his party. All I am asking is quit spouting out all this bullshit and own your own truth, and to all you English majors out there who are going to piss on my grammatical skills with regard to this post ** you too. Last edited by 13and3; 03-27-2014 at 10:13 AM..
Posts: 574

03-27-2014, 10:11 AM	#173
mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $1851300	If receiving the free education is completely dependent upon the athletics, the ability to stay healthy, follow every rule, and maintain good productivity in competition, which of athletics and academics is truly the more important focus? (Hint: there is only one correct answer)
Posts: 24,079

03-27-2014, 10:17 AM	#180
mikey23545 MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10015321	Oh, and at my job I never got free lodging, all meals and medical care...I would hate to think of what all that totals up to for those poor, poor "slaves" toiling away at the game of football...
Posts: 12,314