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Old 09-16-2022, 12:26 AM   #1
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In time, yes.

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Kid is raaaaaaaw. I’d be really surprised if he’s close to NFL ready this season.
If this is raw, dude's going to be a superstar.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:42 AM   #2
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Old 09-16-2022, 10:33 AM   #3
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If this is raw, dude's going to be a superstar.
Yup - he's absolutely proven me wrong there. He looks far more polished than Williams and seems NFL ready. Crazy stuff, man.

Spags can coach him some DBs. Feels like as long as he's our DC we'll be able to round out that CB room with quality players.
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:20 AM   #4
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Yup - he's absolutely proven me wrong there. He looks far more polished than Williams and seems NFL ready. Crazy stuff, man.

Spags can coach him some DBs. Feels like as long as he's our DC we'll be able to round out that CB room with quality players.
Someone in the game day thread was asking for spags to be fired LOL
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:35 AM   #5
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Someone in the game day thread was asking for spags to be fired LOL
The inability to adjust to Williams quick enough almost did us in....
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The inability to adjust to Williams quick enough almost did us in....
So, you support the Fire Spags nonsense?
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So, you support the Fire Spags nonsense?
I honestly don't care much for either of our coordinators. But if I had to choose between the two I'd keep spags....

But seriously he adjusts way to slow for me.
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Someone in the game day thread was asking for spags to be fired LOL
Andy and Spags are by no means above criticism. But anyone who doesn't believe they're both at least top 10 in the league at their roles (top 5 for Andy) doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:44 AM   #9
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Andy and Spags are by no means above criticism. But anyone who doesn't believe they're both at least top 10 in the league at their roles (top 5 for Andy) doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
If someone has Andy outside of the top 5, then I need to see their list.
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Andy and Spags are by no means above criticism. But anyone who doesn't believe they're both at least top 10 in the league at their roles (top 5 for Andy) doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
Spag has literally only been top 10 2/3 times his entire career. Putting him anywhere near the same level of Andy is an insult.
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Andy as a play designer, certainly top 3. Overall coaching, he's lost more big ones than he's won with gaffes that get him mercilessly crucified by media and fans for the two franchises he has coached for. Andy is gonna get you a shot at the big game. Will he win it is always gonna be in question when you see things like the second half of last year's title game, relentlessly passing into a 3 man front with a qb that is rattled for the first time in his career.

Steve Spagnuolo, this guy is feast or famine. I don't see him as a top 10 guy at all. Top 10 guys don't field historically bad defenses the first two months of the season and surrender a 100% redzone td rate. Especially when a good portion of that is self inflicted. Many decisions he made last year from personnel, to playcalls, were fireable offenses. Chris jones out of position looking like a fool. Sorensen and Niemann, we all saw what happened. Jamarr Chase set a rookie record being singled up all game, and we lost the game because of a zero blitz on 3rd and 26. Just monumentally stupid football. Took his time about adjusting the coverage on Williams last night. That adjustment needs to happen faster in games. How can you not see when a guy is on fire against you early?
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Andy as a play designer, certainly top 3. Overall coaching, he's lost more big ones than he's won with gaffes that get him mercilessly crucified by media and fans for the two franchises he has coached for. Andy is gonna get you a shot at the big game. Will he win it is always gonna be in question when you see things like the second half of last year's title game, relentlessly passing into a 3 man front with a qb that is rattled for the first time in his career.

Steve Spagnuolo, this guy is feast or famine. I don't see him as a top 10 guy at all. Top 10 guys don't field historically bad defenses the first two months of the season and surrender a 100% redzone td rate. Especially when a good portion of that is self inflicted. Many decisions he made last year from personnel, to playcalls, were fireable offenses. Chris jones out of position looking like a fool. Sorensen and Niemann, we all saw what happened. Jamarr Chase set a rookie record being singled up all game, and we lost the game because of a zero blitz on 3rd and 26. Just monumentally stupid football. Took his time about adjusting the coverage on Williams last night. That adjustment needs to happen faster in games. How can you not see when a guy is on fire against you early?
Yes, we've read your thread on Andy. We know you think he's a terrible coach.
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Andy as a play designer, certainly top 3. Overall coaching, he's lost more big ones than he's won with gaffes that get him mercilessly crucified by media and fans for the two franchises he has coached for. Andy is gonna get you a shot at the big game. Will he win it is always gonna be in question when you see things like the second half of last year's title game, relentlessly passing into a 3 man front with a qb that is rattled for the first time in his career.

Steve Spagnuolo, this guy is feast or famine. I don't see him as a top 10 guy at all. Top 10 guys don't field historically bad defenses the first two months of the season and surrender a 100% redzone td rate. Especially when a good portion of that is self inflicted. Many decisions he made last year from personnel, to playcalls, were fireable offenses. Chris jones out of position looking like a fool. Sorensen and Niemann, we all saw what happened. Jamarr Chase set a rookie record being singled up all game, and we lost the game because of a zero blitz on 3rd and 26. Just monumentally stupid football. Took his time about adjusting the coverage on Williams last night. That adjustment needs to happen faster in games. How can you not see when a guy is on fire against you early?
Spags was trying some complex coverages early last year that they just weren’t able to handle, so he had to simplify it. And Jones to DE didn’t work out, but it was worth a try. I believe Jones lobbied hard for the chance.

I don’t know how you could rank many head coaches above Reid. There aren’t too many throughout NFL history that you can justify ranking above him.
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Andy and Spags are by no means above criticism. But anyone who doesn't believe they're both at least top 10 in the league at their roles (top 5 for Andy) doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
Spags does a fine job - nobody is perfect as you say. I think he's actually a touch better than he gets credit for.
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