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Old 04-08-2021, 09:02 AM   #1
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Herd Immunity has happened before vaccines were invented........
Sure it has, just with a lot more deaths. Are you really trying to go back to how things were before vaccines and modern medicine?
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Good article. Just as I suspected everything is Smitty's fault. Hope he burns in hell for all of eternity.
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:03 AM   #2
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Funny,

Herd Immunity has happened before vaccines were invented........
Not to RNA viruses (atleast not to the same level as DNA viri).

As we're seeing with the antigenic drift, it'll keep circulating and changing.
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:03 AM   #3
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Herd Immunity has happened before vaccines were invented........
Pretty amazing isnt it?
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:01 AM   #4
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The harm is we will never reach herd immunity if enough selfish shitstains abstain from taking the vaccine. We're already seeing the UK variant become the predominant strain in America. More and more variants are possible as long as there is a large enough group of hosts for the virus to spread, replicate, and evolve. We are going to remain in a perpetual state of waiting for the next surge of cases as long as enough people hold out on getting the vaccine. You want masks and travel restrictions to go away? Take the ****ing vaccine.

And people can about this vaccine being rushed. You think the FDA/CDC were the only ones to approve such vaccines?
You may want to get your facts straight before you get on the soap box genius. The vaccine is NOT FDA approved. Its experimental and they tell you this repeatedly when you get the vaccine.

Nothing like someone who doesn't even know what they are talking about lecturing others and calling them ignorant.
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:07 AM   #5
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You may want to get your facts straight before you get on the soap box genius. The vaccine is NOT FDA approved. Its experimental and they tell you this repeatedly when you get the vaccine.

Nothing like someone whop doesn't even know what they are talking about lecturing others and calling them ignorant.
Semantics, that's not what I said dumbass and isn't the point.

The point is the FDA isn't the only group that has granted the "authorization" or "emergency use authorization", however you want to call it. The point is there are dozen of other governments and authorities around the world who have approved the same vaccines after doing their own process of research and authorization.

And full approval is just around the corner, Pfizer is now in the process of filing for full approval. Do you think anything will have changed if it's granted full approval in a month or two from now? Will the stamp of approval from the FDA finally make jackasses like you feel safe to take the vaccine?
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Good article. Just as I suspected everything is Smitty's fault. Hope he burns in hell for all of eternity.
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:11 AM   #6
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The harm is we will never reach herd immunity if enough selfish shitstains abstain from taking the vaccine. We're already seeing the UK variant become the predominant strain in America. More and more variants are possible as long as there is a large enough group of hosts for the virus to spread, replicate, and evolve. We are going to remain in a perpetual state of waiting for the next surge of cases as long as enough people hold out on getting the vaccine. You want masks and travel restrictions to go away? Take the ****ing vaccine.

And people can about this vaccine being rushed. You think the FDA/CDC were the only ones to approve such vaccines? The EU, UK, and countless other government and scientific agencies around the world have approved these vaccines as well. You're talking literally tens of thousands of scientists around the world who have put countless hours into researching the vaccines, their effectiveness, and their safety. Dozens of countries with their own mechanisms for authorizing new treatments have come to the same conclusion, that the vaccines are safe and the benefits far outweigh any risk.

We're already 6 months in with Pfizer and Moderna and the side effects have been negligible. Sure, side effects exist. Side effects also exist for just about every medication you get prescribed by your doctors, some of them fatal. When is the point at which you numbskulls will finally say they have enough data and won't worry about the emergency use authorization? Is it at one year? Is it at two years? When?

The longer you wait the longer you're helping to prolong the pandemic, and the end result will be you having waited for no reason. Absolutely nothing will change from now until the traditional timeline when vaccines are normally approved. Some new symptoms aren't going to magically start popping up a year into people having been vaccinated that didn't appear 6-months in.

Don't be a selfish prick.
Liberty is a hellofa thing huh?
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:18 AM   #7
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Liberty is a hellofa thing huh?
What is it with people in this country and constantly blabbing on about "liberty". Most of the developed world has "liberty", it's not unique. We live in a society where there are certain requirements and standards by which people should live for the greater good. I'm not some left-wing socialist nutjob, but I'm not an asshole that solely makes decisions in life over what is good for me and me alone.

Should I have the liberty to drive 100 MPH on the freeway regardless of the danger to others?

Should I have the liberty to shout "Gun" or "Fire" in a crowded movie theater?


People already have vaccine requirements in life to attend school or university. Does that infringe on your liberty?

As I said before Pfizer is already in the process of filing for full FDA approval as we speak. Not sure how long that will take, but I imagine it won't be too far off. I wonder if everyone crying about this being an experimental drug will pivot to some other complaint or move the goalposts on why they don't want to take the vaccine.
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:59 PM   #8
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I'm young, healthy in good enough shape, so why did I get vaccinated? Because I care about people who could get sick if I gave it to them. Also:

“I’m still debating that,” Allen said, via Matt Parrino of nyup.com. “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it.

A guy who isn't sure about getting a vaccine doesn't strike me as someone who is "into statistics".

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Old 04-08-2021, 10:23 PM   #9
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I'm young, healthy in good enough shape, so why did I get vaccinated? Because I care about people who could get sick if I gave it to them. Also:

“I’m still debating that,” Allen said, via Matt Parrino of nyup.com. “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it.

A guy who isn't sure about getting a vaccine doesn't strike me as someone who is "into statistics".
Getting vaccinated doesn’t lower your chances of spreading it to others though..... Are you unaware of how this disease and it’s vaccine operates?
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Old 04-08-2021, 10:40 PM   #10
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Getting vaccinated doesn’t lower your chances of spreading it to others though..... Are you unaware of how this disease and it’s vaccine operates?
That's just a dumb narrative because of the whole "you should still wear a mask" thing and I'm sure the media running with an agenda because science wasn't 100% sure about something.... AFAIK, studies haven't been done on viral load post-vaccination and if it prevents spread, but those studies are underway and the early results are pointing towards the vaccines lowering chances of spreading it to others (not sure about each one individually).
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Old 04-08-2021, 10:47 PM   #11
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Getting vaccinated doesn’t lower your chances of spreading it to others though..... Are you unaware of how this disease and it’s vaccine operates?
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Getting vaccinated doesn’t lower your chances of spreading it to others though..... Are you unaware of how this disease and it’s vaccine operates?
Wrong.
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Old 04-08-2021, 08:19 AM   #13
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He's always been slow to process information, but until now I thought that was just on the field.
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Old 04-08-2021, 10:04 PM   #14
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He's always been slow to process information, but until now I thought that was just on the field.
Yeah he is slow to process and just bad at his job. Took his team to the AFC Championship game being a slow processor.

I am sure you're quick on your feet at work but seeing as you are always posting in CP maybe you are unemployable.
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