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Air Force 9 9.09%
BYU 32 32.32%
Boise State 24 24.24%
Cincinnati 32 32.32%
Colorado State University 18 18.18%
EbolAIDS 15 15.15%
Houston 23 23.23%
Marshall 5 5.05%
Memphis 16 16.16%
New Mexico 3 3.03%
SMU 7 7.07%
University of Central Florida 18 18.18%
University of Connecticut 6 6.06%
University of South Florida 8 8.08%
Other (List) 8 8.08%
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Old 12-07-2014, 02:04 PM  
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Conference Realignment Spin-off: Who should the B12 add...?

The BigXII shot itself in the foot yesterday with the round-robin setup. 4 of the 5 P5 conferences have a championship game. The higher seed in each of those games got into the playoffs...whether those are the 4 top teams or not. I don't think FSU or OSU are a top 4 team...but that's for another thread.

The Big12 is going to be relying on the lower seed to win one of these championship games from her on out if they choose not to have a B12 CCG. IMO, that isn't a good way to get your conference represented in the playoffs...
The round-robin is cute...but until they expand to 8 teams. The B12 could find themselves in this situation more often than Not.

The Baylor vs KSU was the championship argument is flawed as is the B12 could have had 2 teams in the playoffs...

So....to get the B12 back to....12 teams, what two teams would you add?

Poll to come...
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Old 07-02-2022, 02:18 PM   #211
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Old 07-02-2022, 02:37 PM   #212
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Mizzou’s move to the SEC can’t really even be questioned at this point. I can’t imagine how unsettling it must be to have to deal with this conference realignment game of Survivor. Mizzou and Nebraska were obviously very smart to make the moves when they did. The ice is melting and everyone outside of the B1G and SEC are just trying to find some solid land every year now.

How many times does it need to be said? Who cares about money or “stability”? Do you turn on your TV and say “wow what stability this program has!” More money has built nicer stadiums in which to lose games in.

The Big 12 schools have nearly all had major achievements since Mizz-Corn left. Even BooClones won a Fiesta Bowl. The teams who left (incl Col and Tex AM) have done nothing.
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Old 07-02-2022, 02:44 PM   #213
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How many times does it need to be said? Who cares about money or “stability”? Do you turn on your TV and say “wow what stability this program has!” More money has built nicer stadiums in which to lose games in.

The Big 12 schools have nearly all had major achievements since Mizz-Corn left. Even BooClones won a Fiesta Bowl. The teams who left (incl Col and Tex AM) have done nothing.


It might not matter to old people like you who won’t be around for another couple decades anyways, but it will be nice to still be in the NCAA when I’m old. Stability is very beneficial in fast changing climates.
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Old 07-02-2022, 02:46 PM   #214
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Old 07-02-2022, 03:13 PM   #217
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It might not matter to old people like you who won’t be around for another couple decades anyways, but it will be nice to still be in the NCAA when I’m old. Stability is very beneficial in fast changing climates.
Why? The NCAA has become nothing more than a corrupt joke. I keep hoping that these conference changes will ultimately lead to the conferences ultimately deciding to abandon the NCAA. We’ll see.
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Don’t get me wrong, I’d love for Iowa State to make B1G/SEC money. But in the grand scheme in the last 10 years Iowa State has made huge strides and has some of the best facilities in the country right now after expanding and upgrading last year, a facility that was built maybe 6-8 years before that.

The Big12 schools will make more than they ever have with their new media deal, and at that point after you’ve made all the upgrades already there’s only so much more you can do. Sure, the B1G/SEC will be able to afford better transportation for their Olympic sports, and can pay more for coaches.. but the Big12 will still make enough money to be more competitive.

If you make 500k a year, or 1 million a year, you’re probably living pretty comfortable at home either way.

Powerhouses change. There will be some schools in the New Big12 who emerge. Hell Nebraska became a powerhouse in the Big8. If we manage to add a few PAC schools like expected, that leaves room for schools to miss other top dogs and rack up wins like the B1G/SEC have been benefiting from.
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Everybody gets to join the Big 10 and SEC!

Like, seriously. When does it end? And at what point does the B1G and SEC decide that programs like Rutgers and Mizzou add nothing and make the conferences no money, and they’d much rather have Washington or UCLA or whatever?
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Like, seriously. When does it end? And at what point does the B1G and SEC decide that programs like Rutgers and Mizzou add nothing and make the conferences no money, and they’d much rather have Washington or UCLA or whatever?
And there in lies the counter point to my hope of moving on from the NCAA… at some point the smaller programs still get left in the dust.

Ideally, in the aftermath of leaving the NCAA in the dust something else besides two supreme conferences rises from the ashes. Most likely, however, is that it will happen after the the supreme two have run the show for a while.
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