***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by R Clark

What are cases per day looking like down under?

Usually zero locally acquired cases each day, although we still import a few cases per day as Aussies come home from overseas. Occasionally there'll be a quarantine breach but these haven't led to outbreaks since last year.

Sent from my Galaxy S10

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

It's not mandatory to get the vaccine at the moment though is it?
So does that mean that they got decertified just because of the 6 out of 7 million thing?

Probably an ignorant question but I haven't been paying too much attention to vaccines as of late since we (regular folk) probably won't be getting them down under until bloody next year.

No, it's not mandatory.

The developments followed the news that a batch amounting to 15 million doses of Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine was spoiled at the plant after being contaminated with ingredients for AstraZeneca’s vaccine.
The error was caught and no contaminated drugs made it out of the plant, according to the companies involved.

The vendor screwed up. The govt put J&J in charge and moved out the AstraZeneca vaccine production. Plant has to get recertified.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Usually zero locally acquired cases each day, although we still import a few cases per day as Aussies come home from overseas. Occasionally there'll be a quarantine breach but these haven't led to outbreaks since last year.

Sent from my Galaxy S10

What about Dingo baby attacks.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Usually zero locally acquired cases each day, although we still import a few cases per day as Aussies come home from overseas. Occasionally there'll be a quarantine breach but these haven't led to outbreaks since last year.

Sent from my Galaxy S10

Sounds like time to throw some shrimp on the barbie

[Stewie]

Well crap. I was scheduled to get the J & J vaccine tomorrow, but now that won't happen. There are no Pfizer or Moderna vaccine or appointments available within 25 miles. I may get the vaccine sometime this year. Ugh!

[chinaski]

Scheduled for my first dose of Pfizer this Saturday at Noon. It was a pain in the ass finding an appointment, but I managed. Second dose on May 8th.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Stewie

Well crap. I was scheduled to get the J & J vaccine tomorrow, but now that won't happen. There are no Pfizer or Moderna vaccine or appointments available within 25 miles. I may get the vaccine sometime this year. Ugh!

Well has your appointment been cancelled? The feds are just recommending that J&J be suspended....they aren't RULING it.

[Marcellus]

Suspending the J&J vaccine over 6 cases in 7MM doses is amazingly stupid unless they aren't being honest.

This is going to negatively effect the number of people willing to get any vaccines moving forward.

They couldn't bungle this shit any more if they tried.

We had a work vaccination clinic scheduled with the J&Jvaccine this Thursday and Friday and now I bet our numbers drop through the floor even if we get another vaccine.

[Discuss Thrower]

Not like there's a huge number of people on the fence about getting the vaxx.

[TLO]

Something doesn't seem right here. Why weren't there pauses when very rarely people were having allergic reactions to the mRNA vaccines?

I don't feel like we're getting the full story.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Suspending the J&J vaccine over 6 cases in 7MM doses is amazingly stupid unless they aren't being honest.

This is going to negatively effect the number of people willing to get any vaccines moving forward.

They couldn't bungle this shit any more if they tried.

We had a work vaccination clinic scheduled with the J&Jvaccine this Thursday and Friday and now I bet our numbers drop through the floor even if we get another vaccine.

There's more going on than what they are saying. I'm amazed at how willing people are to put an injection in their body that hasn't even finished being tested. Trials don't end until next year at the earliest. The people getting the shot are the guinnea pigs.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

There's more going on than what they are saying. I'm amazed at how willing people are to put an injection in their body that hasn't even finished being tested. Trials don't end until next year at the earliest. The people getting the shot are the guinnea pigs.

Everything has to get tested on humans at some point, I am sure you have extensively researched everything you have ever ingested.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

Something doesn't seem right here. Why weren't there pauses when very rarely people were having allergic reactions to the mRNA vaccines?

I don't feel like we're getting the full story.

It sounds like I was the "type" of clot and that they were harder to treat than a normal one or something like that.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Suspending the J&J vaccine over 6 cases in 7MM doses is amazingly stupid unless they aren't being honest.

This is going to negatively effect the number of people willing to get any vaccines moving forward.

They couldn't bungle this shit any more if they tried.

We had a work vaccination clinic scheduled with the J&Jvaccine this Thursday and Friday and now I bet our numbers drop through the floor even if we get another vaccine.

The J&J vaccine is an adenovirus vaccine like the AZ vaccine. AZ has shown to cause clots and now the J&J has as well. Must be something due to it being adenovirus

[carlos3652]

I have a friend who got the J and J and was just released from having a blood clot in the brain.. unsure if she is counted as one of the six... i think this is bigger than just 6. Various people that I know have had issues after the vax, but Im not going to point at the vax because we dont know...

Most of my family is vaxxed... and no issues so far.

Kinda scary for the people that have adverse reaction to the vax.