***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Nice to see Hamas put a nail in the coffin of the legitimacy of this thread and his opinions.

He clearly doesn’t have an agenda though!

[O.city]

I guess we have a pretty good study to see how large gatherings will fare and if we can have football games this fall with fans.

Results should be in here in about 2/3 weeks.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by O.city

I guess we have a pretty good study to see how large gatherings will fare and if we can have football games this fall with fans.

Results should be in here in about 2/3 weeks.

Haven't you been paying attention.... These Riots are immune from the spread of coronavirus and are in no way going to have a negative impact!

/Hamas said so

They are "Different"

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Haven't you been paying attention.... These Riots are immune from the spread of coronavirus and are in no way going to have a negative impact!

/Hamas said so

They are "Different"

Wow your reading comprehension is pretty terrible, were you part of no child left behind?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Wow your reading comprehension is pretty terrible, were you part of no child left behind?

You can go **** yourself too because you were telling any of us that wanted to live our lives under reasonable social distancing measures that we were pieces of shit, and now you’re silent about all of this too.

Every last one of you have gone completely silent. It’s proof that I was right all along that you had a political agenda. There’s no denying it at this point.

[arrwheader]

Really didn't want to start a new thread for this and since it's related to the covid-19 stuff i'll ask here.

Whats everyone's take on not putting in a two week notice for a job that furloughed you for 8 weeks? I have worked on and off total so far of 6 weeks furlough served with 2 more weeks to go. I interviewed and got a new job that wants me to start this week. Kansas unemployment process has been rough for me and am still owed money, from the state and I'm not a fan of collecting it in the first place and ready to get back to normal.

Personally I feel like I don't owe them shit I got no advance notice of a furlough because it is a business decision, but because I feel like that's the standard I should maybe still do it.

Thoughts?

[Spott]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

Really didn't want to start a new thread for this and since it's related to the covid-19 stuff i'll ask here.

Whats everyone's take on not putting in a two week notice for a job that furloughed you for 8 weeks? I have worked on and off total so far of 6 weeks furlough served with 2 more weeks to go. I interviewed and got a new job that wants me to start this week. Kansas unemployment process has been rough for me and am still owed money, from the state and I'm not a fan of collecting it in the first place and ready to get back to normal.

Personally I feel like I don't owe them shit I got no advance notice of a furlough because it is a business decision, but because I feel like that's the standard I should maybe still do it. I expect that all of these employers that indefinitely furloughed people are expecting many of their employees to find jobs elsewhere.
Thoughts?

Take the new job and just go ahead and tell them now. A week’s notice is better than none. I think most of the businesses that indefinitely furloughed their employees are expecting many of them to find jobs elsewhere in the interim.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

I guess we have a pretty good study to see how large gatherings will fare and if we can have football games this fall with fans.

Results should be in here in about 2/3 weeks.

I think this experiment only applies to Raiders fans....

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You can go **** yourself too because you were telling any of us that wanted to live our lives under reasonable social distancing measures that we were pieces of shit, and now you’re silent about all of this too.

Every last one of you have gone completely silent. It’s proof that I was right all along that you had a political agenda. There’s no denying it at this point.

Uh you know we aren't supposed to be talking about that shit in here right?

But look if you want to be real about it, what they're doing will almost assuredly lead to a massive spike in numbers. No one that brought up ever said that it wouldn't. The absolute spin here that "oh look you all don't care about covid now" is a ****ing 3rd grade argument.

Hamas said that protesting a dude getting killed by a cop is a better cause than people getting haircuts, unless you are completely dense that's a reasonable thing to say. But at the same time both of those things will cause numbers to increase in this climate.

I don't think that means you are supporting one over the other, they have the same effect an increase in numbers of the virus.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You can go **** yourself too because you were telling any of us that wanted to live our lives under reasonable social distancing measures that we were pieces of shit, and now you’re silent about all of this too.

Every last one of you have gone completely silent. It’s proof that I was right all along that you had a political agenda. There’s no denying it at this point.

Fact, its crazy to watch their righteous indignation of people going out into the world go missing.

"You don't care about grandma or grandpa"

Riots

"Well I mean they are angry"

[Mecca]

Find one post of mine where I said that was perfectly fine....that's a pretty wicked strawman you're building though.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You can go **** yourself too because you were telling any of us that wanted to live our lives under reasonable social distancing measures that we were pieces of shit, and now you’re silent about all of this too.

Every last one of you have gone completely silent. It’s proof that I was right all along that you had a political agenda. There’s no denying it at this point.

From a public health stance any mass gathering right now is not smart, from a common sense stance there can be a difference in the reasoning behind them.

protest injustice vs pool party , doesn't mean you have an agenda.

[arrwheader]

Originally Posted by Spott

Take the new job and just go ahead and tell them now. A week’s notice is better than none. I think most of the businesses that indefinitely furloughed their employees are expecting many of them to find jobs elsewhere in the interim.

Agree, thing is my new job wants me to start asap. They are actually not hurting at all since they develop software for e-learning. I'm leaning towards just taking the job and telling them that the furlough has put financial stress on me and my family and I have an employer that is wiling to pay me full time and wants me to start now so sorry about it.

I should mention I don't have anything to hand off as I we never started anything this year due to all the craziness. I just don't see the point in a two week notice and obviously they need to save the money anyway. But for some reason something nags at me about it. I Think its just the company will find a way to spin it like I am an asshole for not putting in a notice and I do like some of my co workers.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Monticore

From a public health stance any mass gathering right now is not smart, from a common sense stance there can be a difference in the reasoning behind them.

protest injustice vs pool party , doesn't mean you have an agenda.

Ahhh ok that makes sense,

So all these protesters and people rioting just want to kill grandma and grandpa.

Gotcha
lol

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Uh you know we aren't supposed to be talking about that shit in here right?

But look if you want to be real about it, what they're doing will almost assuredly lead to a massive spike in numbers. No one that brought up ever said that it wouldn't. The absolute spin here that "oh look you all don't care about covid now" is a ****ing 3rd grade argument.

Hamas said that protesting a dude getting killed by a cop is a better cause than people getting haircuts, unless you are completely dense that's a reasonable thing to say. But at the same time both of those things will cause numbers to increase in this climate.

I don't think that means you are supporting one over the other, they have the same effect an increase in numbers of the virus.

Me getting a haircut in a barbershop with less than 10 people (following reasonable social distancing measures) is the same as rioting with hundreds with some masks? Who in this thread said anything about gathering in large groups? Our desires were all pretty ****ing reasonable and you’re trying to compare it to this shit?

JFC you couldn’t be any more obvious in your bias. All of you.