Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 20

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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**DaFace** · 05-06-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Have you read the whole thread? BRC's posts?

"Would be an improvement" <> "We should be happy with that"

Especially when the connotation with the latter is that we should be happy with that indefinitely (as opposed to next season).

-King- · 05-06-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

"Would be an improvement" <> "We should be happy with that"

Especially when the connotation with the latter is that we should be happy with that indefinitely (as opposed to next season).

Um...no.

Valiant · 05-06-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

when is the first time anyone cared about going 8-8?

Most trufans on here.

Beeker · 05-06-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Butts in the seats

Alex Smith may manage the talented roster into the playoffs, but it won't be because of him.

The worst team in football with 6 pro bowlers, oh yeah it will be because of that trade that the team gets to 10 and 6.

Annnnnnnd ... there it is. Just lie I knew it would be.

**DaFace** · 05-06-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Um...no.

My mistake if you truly didn't mean it that way. I've had "we're going to be mediocre forever" around here constantly lately, so that's the way I read it.

RunKC · 05-06-2013, 02:43 PM

This says they have ultimate faith in Alex. He needs to get this team to the playoffs in the next 2 years at the absolute worst.

I'll consider this a fair deal if he starts winning playoff games.

O.city · 05-06-2013, 02:48 PM

Meh

Obviously they think pretty highly of him and think he can be really successful here. Have to wait and see.

If he is as successful as they think he will be, 2 2nd rounders are fine.

Maybe they like Bray as the future or something

Bewbies · 05-06-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Meh

Obviously they think pretty highly of him and think he can be really successful here. Have to wait and see.

If he is as successful as they think he will be, 2 2nd rounders are fine.

Maybe they like Bray as the future or something

If they knew back then they were going to sign Bray as an UDFA to come in after Smith flamed out they're genious. (and reeruned to bank your future on an UDFA)

Bewbies · 05-06-2013, 02:55 PM

You don't trade 2 2nds for a QB that isn't in your long term plans. Alex Smith is their guy the same was Cassel was Belichick's penis entrance's.

-King- · 05-06-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Meh

Obviously they think pretty highly of him and think he can be really successful here. Have to wait and see.

With that logic, you couldn't criticize any move any team made.

Bewbies · 05-06-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

With that logic, you couldn't criticize any move any team made.

And there it is, true fan 101.

patteeu · 05-06-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Meh

Obviously they think pretty highly of him and think he can be really successful here. Have to wait and see.

If he is as successful as they think he will be, 2 2nd rounders are fine.

Maybe they like Bray as the future or something

Nobody likes a guy they picked up as an UDFA as the future. He's a lottery ticket at this point. That's all.

Molitoth · 05-06-2013, 03:03 PM

While I'm proud that this regime understands the importance of the QB position by giving up way too much to get one... they better be right on WHO they gave it up for.

Alex Smith has not shown over the course of his career that he is worth that price tag.

O.city · 05-06-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

With that logic, you couldn't criticize any move any team made.

Sure.

But there isn't really any point in sitting around criticizing the move when we don't yet know the results. Maybe he is worth what we gave up, maybe he sucks.

I guess I'm higher on Smith than most, I think he'll play well. I hate what we gave up, in that I tend to think we bid against ourselves.

This is probably true fan or whatever, but I'm just happy that it looks like we'll be back to respectable in the football world. The last 6 years have been terrible, I guess we have to start somewhere.

It's not where I'd prefer they start, but it is what it is.

O.city · 05-06-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Nobody likes a guy they picked up as an UDFA as the future. He's a lottery ticket at this point. That's all.

Most cases I would agree, but in Bray's case, it's a little different.

He was a 3rd round predicted guy, that fell due to "issues". Hell, some people actually had him as the best QB in this class. Not sure that says something about Bray, or this class as a whole.

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