Chiefs Dear Andy, protect your quarterback. Signed, everyone. - Page 9

Wallcrawler · 01-17-2021, 08:26 PM

Andy Reid. Lot of ways to describe this man.

Innovator. Genius. Guru.

So how does a man deserving of these adjectives, who has coached for two decades plus, guiding now two separate franchises to host a hat trick of title games not understand that exposing the very reason your team transcends all others is UNFATHOMABLY stupid?

3rd n 1. Big bruising back in the game playing well. Best arm on the planet running the offense. Lets not hand it off though, let's call a designed run exposing our qb to a free shot that gets his head ripped off.

Why?

Mahomes isn't going to back off from the call, and the guy puts a bullseye on his back enough with his own scrambles down field. Its YOUR JOB to protect your quarterback.

Why the **** are you calling designed qb running plays? He was already dinged and limping around. You cannot honestly believe that THIS was the only way you could get one yard on this trash defense.

15 is the reason KC is favored in every contest.

15 covers MANY of your warts as a play caller and time manager.

15 is the guy who saved your coaching legacy, bringing you a championship that eluded you for years, because your other quarterbacks could not overcome your post season pant shitting.

Why you choose to put 15 in harms way intentionally is beyond any sane line of thinking. It isnt like you have an o line that can protect him. You have a former #1 and a bunch of JAGS up front trying their best to just not look like a reerun trying to **** a doorknob.

Every time he drops back, he has to run for his life already, so to just throw him into the teeth of the defense, intentionally, is simply unfathomably stupid.

Take a look at your incredible 3 point performance in the second half against the terrible Browns defense. That's how far an innovative, guru genius like you is going to get with Chad ****ing Henne.

So please. For all of us, pal.

Take care of your ****ing quarterback.

htismaqe · 01-19-2021, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

If you want to argue that the resources are better used elsewhere, that's fine, but to pretend like it wouldn't make a difference is ridiculous.

In terms of "keeping him healthy" it won't make a lick of difference.

Guys get hurt in the pocket, out of the pocket, and playing pickup basketball in the offseason.

The whole idea that the offensive line needs to be urgently upgraded to protect Patrick from getting hurt is just based on knee-jerk reactions and myth.

The Packers offensive line didn't protect Aaron Rodgers from missing all those games 3 years ago. Drew Brees missed 4 games this season despite all of the 1st round picks on their line.

I'm ALL FOR improving the line. But to say it needs to be done to "keep Mahomes healthy" just isn't an argument grounded in reality, it's straight up fiction.

Megatron96 · 01-19-2021, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

When the qb becomes a runner, all the rules that protect him go out the window.

This is pure genious. Who knew?

Seriously, just how many plays are we going to take out of the book because Mahomes somehow got injured in some freak way one time?

It's idiotic. It's hard enough to win games in the NFL, but because Wallcrawler (et al) is a whiny bitch Andy should take yet another play out of the book because of a freak accident?

It's football. Stuff happens. you don't take the highest percentage plays out of the book just because Patrick just signed a $450 million contract.

He's a football player. Let him play ball.

Some of you act like Andy is making Pat run these plays, when it's a lot more likely that Pat is calling for these plays himself. And has had absurdly stunning success running them, we should add.

Stop your bitching, ffs.

htismaqe · 01-19-2021, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Seriously, just how many plays are we going to take out of the book because Mahomes somehow got injured in some freak way one time?

All of them. We're going to get our own Taysoms Hills. Gotta keep Patrick healthy.

**New World Order** · 01-19-2021, 11:58 AM

Pat takes risks. Even when he's throwing he sometimes holds onto the ball for as long as possible until he's hit.

We're probably going to have a few injuries over his career. It's just how it's going to be.

GloryDayz · 01-19-2021, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Why wouldn't he?

Aaron Rodgers has ha two season-ending injuries in 8 years, behind a very good offensive line. And he's 37.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-19-2021, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Agree, quality post...

What Andy could be doing, and maybe he's trying and just not succeeding, is improve the O-line. It's strange to have a $500,000,000 asset PMII protected by an O-line like this.

It’s difficult to “improve the offense line” when the Chiefs are starting their 4th Left Guard, 4th Right Guard and 4th Right Tackle of the 2020 season.

It’s absolutely amazing that throughout all of the losses of offensive lineman to injury and opt-outs that the Chiefs are 15-2, because any other team facing the loss of so many lineman would be 2-14.

O.city · 01-19-2021, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It worked for the Saints too. So well that they dominate the regular season and can't win in the playoffs. Like the Baltimore Ravens of the NFC.

Improving the o-line isn't going to keep him healthy. It's fools gold. It didn't keep Rodgers healthy. And it has resulted in zero Super Bowl appearances in a decade.

No thanks. I'll pass.

The 9ers made it to the sb with another teams backup. Maybe the chiefs should try that?

Sassy Squatch · 01-19-2021, 12:12 PM

Uh, no, the line needs to be upgraded urgently because the core is either rapidly declining or already finished due to injury (Schwartz), hasn't played organized football in well over a year and wasn't particularly good at staying healthy when he was (LDT), isn't even under contract after this year (Reiter), is a complete liability when he's on the field (Wylie), and is starting to show signs of declining play due to his own age and accumulated injuries (Fisher).

htismaqe · 01-19-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The 9ers made it to the sb with another teams backup. Maybe the chiefs should try that?

He wasn't a backup in SF. They traded a 2nd-round pick for him.

htismaqe · 01-19-2021, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Uh, no, the line needs to be upgraded urgently because the core is either rapidly declining or already finished due to injury (Schwartz), hasn't played organized football in well over a year and wasn't particularly good at staying healthy when he was (LDT), isn't even under contract after this year (Reiter), is a complete liability when he's on the field (Wylie), and is starting to show signs of declining play due to his own age and accumulated injuries (Fisher).

For sure, they have work to do. It's just a question of how much they want to spend to do it.

O.city · 01-19-2021, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He wasn't a backup in SF. They traded a 2nd-round pick for him.

They traded for another teams backup and made it to a sb so it can be done!

O.city · 01-19-2021, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

For sure, they have work to do. It's just a question of how much they want to spend to do it.

There’s no way they overhaul the whole thing. Maybe 2 new starters I’d think

htismaqe · 01-19-2021, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They traded for another teams backup and made it to a sb so it can be done!

They made it to the Super Bowl with a historically good defensive line.

Maybe if the Packers had focused on getting Rodgers some weapons instead of trying to match their offensive line against that defensive line, the Packers would have beat them.

You know, like we did.

htismaqe · 01-19-2021, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

There’s no way they overhaul the whole thing. Maybe 2 new starters I’d think

It depends on what they do with Reiter. If they let him go, there's 1 new starter.

There's also the thing with Schwartz.

The issue here is that most people hate Wylie and don't think much more of LDT. Both of those guys will likely be starters next year.

Otherwise you ARE overhauling the whole thing.

Sassy Squatch · 01-19-2021, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

They made it to the Super Bowl with a historically good defensive line.

Maybe if the Packers had focused on getting Rodgers some weapons instead of trying to match their offensive line against that defensive line, the Packers would have beat them.

You know, like we did.

I seem to remember the 49ers OL opening up gaping holes for Mostert as the reason they easily won that game.

01-17-2021, 08:26 PM
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4222912	Dear Andy, protect your quarterback. Signed, everyone. Andy Reid. Lot of ways to describe this man. Innovator. Genius. Guru. So how does a man deserving of these adjectives, who has coached for two decades plus, guiding now two separate franchises to host a hat trick of title games not understand that exposing the very reason your team transcends all others is UNFATHOMABLY stupid? 3rd n 1. Big bruising back in the game playing well. Best arm on the planet running the offense. Lets not hand it off though, let's call a designed run exposing our qb to a free shot that gets his head ripped off. Why? Mahomes isn't going to back off from the call, and the guy puts a bullseye on his back enough with his own scrambles down field. Its YOUR JOB to protect your quarterback. Why the ** are you calling designed qb running plays? He was already dinged and limping around. You cannot honestly believe that THIS was the only way you could get one yard on this trash defense. 15 is the reason KC is favored in every contest. 15 covers MANY of your warts as a play caller and time manager. 15 is the guy who saved your coaching legacy, bringing you a championship that eluded you for years, because your other quarterbacks could not overcome your post season pant shitting. Why you choose to put 15 in harms way intentionally is beyond any sane line of thinking. It isnt like you have an o line that can protect him. You have a former #1 and a bunch of JAGS up front trying their best to just not look like a reerun trying to a doorknob. Every time he drops back, he has to run for his life already, so to just throw him into the teeth of the defense, intentionally, is simply unfathomably stupid. Take a look at your incredible 3 point performance in the second half against the terrible Browns defense. That's how far an innovative, guru genius like you is going to get with Chad ing Henne. So please. For all of us, pal. Take care of your **ing quarterback.
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New World Order Choco Favre Join Date: Jul 2012 Casino cash: $2644765	Pat takes risks. Even when he's throwing he sometimes holds onto the ball for as long as possible until he's hit. We're probably going to have a few injuries over his career. It's just how it's going to be.
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2429655	Uh, no, the line needs to be upgraded urgently because the core is either rapidly declining or already finished due to injury (Schwartz), hasn't played organized football in well over a year and wasn't particularly good at staying healthy when he was (LDT), isn't even under contract after this year (Reiter), is a complete liability when he's on the field (Wylie), and is starting to show signs of declining play due to his own age and accumulated injuries (Fisher).
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