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Old 03-01-2023, 01:21 PM  
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The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl without a star wide receiver, but they could reportedly make an elite offense even scarier by acquiring DeAndre Hopkins.

NFL insider Benjamin Albright told PHNX Cardinals that Kansas City is the "primary suitor" for Hopkins. He doesn't know the draft compensation the Cardinals would receive, but he said it's more likely they get a second-round pick than a first.

After the 2022 season, theScore's Jordan Schultz reported that the Cardinals plan to trade Hopkins this offseason.

Arizona hired a new general manager and head coach after a disappointing four-win season, and Hopkins is set to make $19.45 million (with a $30.75 million cap hit) in 2023. The Cardinals could seek a clean slate by moving the three-time All-Pro wideout, who turns 31 in June.

Hopkins began his Cardinals career by tallying 1,407 yards and six touchdowns in 2020. However, multiple lower body injuries limited him to 10 games in 2021, and he served a six-game suspension to start the 2022 season for violating the NFL's PED policy.

Yet he remains an impact player when on the field. Hopkins totaled 474 receiving yards in six full games with quarterback Kyler Murray last season.

Now imagine what he can accomplish when catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs flourished without a star replacement for Tyreek Hill, but they could still benefit by solidifying the position this offseason. JuJu Smith-Schuster is a free agent after garnering 78 catches for 933 yards on a one-year deal. The depth chart features several talented question marks in Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney, and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Adding Hopkins could be great news for Kansas City, but terrible for all opposing defenses.
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Old 04-03-2023, 09:34 AM   #3046
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Sneed is great, no knocks against him, but if you give me a choice between Sneed or Bolton, its Bolton every day of the week and the youth of our secondary last year alone shows you why Sneed is replaceable compared to Bolton.
It's not Sneed vs. Bolton, it's Sneed vs. Gay. Both are in the last year of their contracts. Bolton's contract runs through 2024.
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Old 04-03-2023, 09:34 AM   #3047
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Old 04-03-2023, 09:44 AM   #3048
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Yeah, if he's released I wouldn't hold my breath on it. But shit, his market just isn't coming together at that price.
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Old 04-03-2023, 10:52 AM   #3049
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Sneed is so valuable that his name used to be Charvarius Ward but because of his value, he legally changed his name to L'Jarius Sneed. We haven't had a dominant LB like Bolton since Derrick Johnson, and then hadn't had a dominant LB like that since the great one Derrick Thomas. You've replaced greatness in the secondary reliably since Andy Reid got here, in fact it's almost guaranteed that Sneed won't be here long, but Bolton will get another contract even if it means Gay walks. You've only replaced greatness in the LB core a couple times since the greatest to ever do it in Red and Gold. Sneed is great, no knocks against him, but if you give me a choice between Sneed or Bolton, its Bolton every day of the week and the youth of our secondary last year alone shows you why Sneed is replaceable compared to Bolton.
Look, I really love Bolten but stud CBs are way more valuable than stud MLB's. I'm not sure if you are an MU game or something but your take isn't based in reality.
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Old 04-03-2023, 11:00 AM   #3050
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I don't see them cutting him. If anything they just wait till after June 1st to trade him. Will be the same Cap savings and a team might be more willing to pony up a pick if a injury or something happens.

Cards could just sit on this for awhile.
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Old 04-03-2023, 11:15 AM   #3051
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Look, I really love Bolten but stud CBs are way more valuable than stud MLB's. I'm not sure if you are an MU game or something but your take isn't based in reality.
No it's based in reality, he's already broken the franchise record for tackles.

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Bolton - 180 Combined Tackles - 72 Assisted - 2 sacks - 2 INT

Sneed - 108 Combined Tackles - 33 Assisted - 3.5 sacks - 3 INT

The lockdown corner, days of Revis island aren't as prevalent anymore. In today's NFL everyone gets beat on passes. You're going to give up yards you just have to make sure you don't give up the big play. Hence why we could slot Williams, Cook and McDuffie into a Super Bowl winning defense. Bolton is always around the ball, and his 72 combined tackles more overshadow the only 1 extra INT a CB has for the year over a LB and only 1.5 sacks more as well. I wish we could keep them both, but I'd bet money Gay is gone, Sneed is gone, Bolton stays for a second contract when it comes time to pull that trigger. Bolton made the defensive play of the game in the Super Bowl against the Eagles that helped us stay in the game before halftime. Also now Sneed has a concussion and hip issues he's dealt with this last year where Bolton has been a beacon of consistency for his first two years in the league. I have no allegiances to MU, I have allegiances to game breakers who will be in the ring of honor one day, Bolton will go into the ring before Sneed does.
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Old 04-03-2023, 11:41 AM   #3052
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Look, I really love Bolten but stud CBs are way more valuable than stud MLB's. I'm not sure if you are an MU game or something but your take isn't based in reality.
I'm a MU game and I have no idea who Bolten even is.
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No it's based in reality, he's already broken the franchise record for tackles.

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Let's see who gets the bigger contract.
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You don't think he's ready to chase a ring at this point in his career? I would have thought we had a better chance if he's released, but maybe I'm wrong.
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You don't think he's ready to chase a ring at this point in his career? I would have thought we had a better chance if he's released, but maybe I'm wrong.
It always comes down to cash man. People always talk about chasing a ring but it's normally dollars that do the talking.
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Let's see who gets the bigger contract.
You can't compare position contracts and equate it to value.


Best way to do it would be...

Would you rather have Hitchens back or Ward. (current roster)
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I'm betting that Veach is losing sleep over WR, RT, and pass rush position.

He's just a bit better poker player than an average dude off the street...
Yeah, just like last year when he "lost sleep" over a complete rebuild of the defensive backfield (almost exclusively through the draft) and the WR position.
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Agreed completely. I'd certainly be interested if we can get him for a reasonable amount without giving up a pick.
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Agreed completely. I'd certainly be interested if we can get him for a reasonable amount without giving up a pick.
If we can convince him to take a back loaded 3 year deal or something. And not break the ****ing bank...

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It depends, hell if he will take a 1 year 10 million I will call it a win.
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