Chiefs LNBS-Looking at the 2018 Salary Cap - Page 6

RunKC · 01-12-2018, 08:15 PM

Holy shit what a mess. Here are the top 25 paid players, basically everyone with a cap hit of $1 million plus:

Couple of things stand out here:

-Tamba is gone.
-No way in hell is DJ playing for $10.25 million.
-Dee Ford has no dead money unless his back is ****ed.
-No way should Allen Bailey play for an $8 million cap hit.
-Ron Parker’s value deal is over. $7 million cap hit is way too high for him.
-Revis will be decided in March. Doubt he’s back.
-Dirty Dan is $4.8 million to our cap. Holy shit.

There should be some cuts/restructures coming. I think we might see a lot of new faces on defense next year.

**BigRedChief** · 01-14-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

If Jacksonville loses tomorrow because of Bortles, I expect them to be all in on Alex. That defense is ready to roll right now and the window won't stay open forever with a lot of those guys on the cheap. They legitimately should offer their 1st for Alex IMO.

Thats not the feeling down here at all. No one wants Alex. Literally no Jags fan I've talked too.

They want Cousins. Have the cap room to make the deal. Jags are out of the Smith trade scenarios.

**BigRedChief** · 01-14-2018, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I was listening to Grunhard the other day on my morning drive to work. He said opposing OC's know what sets Houston is going to be allowed to rush and which sets he is going to drop into coverage, so they are scheming to get the personal on the field the keeps Houston in coverage most of the day. Makes sense.

okay, so Sutton is a dumbass. But, if its that obvious, why wouldn't the other coaches warn him of the tell?

Hoover · 01-14-2018, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Thats not the feeling down here at all. No one wants Alex. Literally no Jags fan I've talked too.

They want Cousins. Have the cap room to make the deal. Jags are out of the Smith trade scenarios.

While I think that makes a ton of sense, it may not be realistic.

1. Cousins would want to go to Jacksonville
2. Jacksonville is going to have to compete with a bunch of teams for his services, and the dude isn’t going to give anyone a deal.
3. I don’t give a shit what the fans are saying all that matters is the front office.

What happens if you miss out on cousins and a team like Arizona pulled the trigger quick on Smith? What you going to do sign Bortles to a long term deal. Yuck.

Coogs · 01-14-2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

okay, so Sutton is a dumbass. But, if its that obvious, why wouldn't the other coaches warn him of the tell?

Damned if I know. He just said in certain formations Houston is going to be dropping in coverage. So the other teams are making sure that is what he is doing.

I'm all for a switch to a 4-3 so we have our best pass rushers with their hand on the dirt out on the end rushing he passer nearly all of the time.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-14-2018, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

While I think that makes a ton of sense, it may not be realistic.

1. Cousins would want to go to Jacksonville
2. Jacksonville is going to have to compete with a bunch of teams for his services, and the dude isn’t going to give anyone a deal.
3. I don’t give a shit what the fans are saying all that matters is the front office.

What happens if you miss out on cousins and a team like Arizona pulled the trigger quick on Smith? What you going to do sign Bortles to a long term deal. Yuck.

Cousins to Jacksonville makes a ton of sense. They are a young team with a shit load of cap space and probably want a qb who is a longer term answer. I don't think Jacksonville is as much in play as we think it is. The only thing on our side is that Alex plays the same style of WCO as bortles except better.

Sandy Vagina · 01-14-2018, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Damned if I know. He just said in certain formations Houston is going to be dropping in coverage. So the other teams are making sure that is what he is doing.

I'm all for a switch to a 4-3 so we have our best pass rushers with their hand on the dirt out on the end rushing he passer nearly all of the time.

.. yes please.

Would benefit the team to have Houston and KPass as pure edge rushers. Chris Jones and Bailey inside. Too costly for either Ford or Logan to stick around. I think all the other LBs would benefit from this as well. (Rags as the Mike)

Wouldn't have to change things up on the line when in pass situations. Just drop out a LB or two for a DB.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-14-2018, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I was listening to Grunhard the other day on my morning drive to work. He said opposing OC's know what sets Houston is going to be allowed to rush and which sets he is going to drop into coverage, so they are scheming to get the personal on the field the keeps Houston in coverage most of the day. Makes sense.

I would hope and think the players, especially a well respected guy like Houston, are communicating this up. I'm sure they heard Romo pick apart this defense on national TV. And it's no secret that peters hates this scheme. Sutton may have no clue but I'd have to think plenty of people in the org know there's a problem.

BryanBusby · 01-14-2018, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Thats not the feeling down here at all. No one wants Alex. Literally no Jags fan I've talked too.

They want Cousins. Have the cap room to make the deal. Jags are out of the Smith trade scenarios.

Punting Bortles to make Cousins the highest paid QB ever, who has Bortles like meltdowns, doesn't seem like a move Tom Coughlin would favor.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-14-2018, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I think a Houston trade would make sense. Trading Smith along with Houston should net quite a haul.

Trading Houston is a very bad idea. We'd take a $13M dead cap hit.

Houston is a good target for a 2019 restructure or contract extension. Unless they decide to outright cut him in 2019, which I doubt they'd want to given his veteran leadership. We'll get cap relief for his contract soon enough.

**Easy 6** · 01-14-2018, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Punting Bortles to make Cousins the highest paid QB ever, who has Bortles like meltdowns, doesn't seem like a move Tom Coughlin would favor.

Swear to God, Cousins has to be the most inexplicably overhyped QB of the last 10 years

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-14-2018, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Thats not the feeling down here at all. No one wants Alex. Literally no Jags fan I've talked too.

They want Cousins. Have the cap room to make the deal. Jags are out of the Smith trade scenarios.

Hmm. I think that's goofy on their end.

The way that Jags team is set up, they'd be better off with a guy like Smith who won't screw things up more so than Cousins who can be a bit of a wild card. They need a guy who can consistently go out and protect the ball, as they are 9-0 when Bortles hasn't thrown an INT in 2017.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-14-2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Swear to God, Cousins has to be the most inexplicably overhyped QB of the last 10 years

Meh, not sure he's really that hyped. I think everyone sees him as a middling QB. But the Jags are in that win now, long window mode that long-term stability at QB is on their mind. And it's going to be really hard for them to rely on the draft since they'll probably be a lower first round pick for years to come.

Hoover · 01-14-2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Cousins to Jacksonville makes a ton of sense. They are a young team with a shit load of cap space and probably want a qb who is a longer term answer. I don't think Jacksonville is as much in play as we think it is. The only thing on our side is that Alex plays the same style of WCO as bortles except better.

Agree. But you have to make sure you get your guy. Not sure Jacksonville is that attractive for Cousins.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-14-2018, 11:07 AM

I would think Jacksonville is the most appealing QB opening. Elite defense, great running game, good receivers. Good weather. They've got the money to pay you...

Any QB would be fine with that IMO.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-14-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I would think Jacksonville is the most appealing QB opening. Elite defense, great running game, good receivers. Good weather. They've got the money to pay you...

Any QB would be fine with that IMO.

And tons of cap space for years to come.

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2269611	LNBS-Looking at the 2018 Salary Cap Holy shit what a mess. Here are the top 25 paid players, basically everyone with a cap hit of $1 million plus: Couple of things stand out here: -Tamba is gone. -No way in hell is DJ playing for $10.25 million. -Dee Ford has no dead money unless his back is ****ed. -No way should Allen Bailey play for an $8 million cap hit. -Ron Parker’s value deal is over. $7 million cap hit is way too high for him. -Revis will be decided in March. Doubt he’s back. -Dirty Dan is $4.8 million to our cap. Holy shit. There should be some cuts/restructures coming. I think we might see a lot of new faces on defense next year.
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9149447	I would think Jacksonville is the most appealing QB opening. Elite defense, great running game, good receivers. Good weather. They've got the money to pay you... Any QB would be fine with that IMO.
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