Chiefs Keep any two to build your franchise - Page 4

el borracho · 09-13-2011, 07:49 PM

While I am not conceding the entire 2011 season, I would still say it is obvious that there is room for improvement. Looking forward to 2012, please select two of the four choices to build your franchise.

Poll forthcoming.

el borracho · 09-13-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

If Cassel wasn't such a no-talent ass clown, the Chiefs probably squeak out the win.

Squeak what? 40 more points? I am a huge Cassell basher but that is crazy talk.

Crush · 09-13-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

It's also the defense's job to not give up 41 points. It's also the punter's job not to have 25 yard punts. It's also the running back's job not to fumble.

The defense's job becomes easier if the QB is able to sustain drives and run down the clock. The punter does not go on the field if the QB is able to sustain drives and run down the clock. The team bounces back from the fumble if the QB is able to sustain drives and run down the clock.

Rams Fan · 09-13-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

yeppers peppers. Carl lived through multiple questionable hirings. I'm thinking Pioli gets the same. Heck, I'm not even sure Haley would be on the hot seat this season for any reason short of 3-13 or worse.

Haley shouldn't be on the hot seat until next season, at least. If there a lot of injuries, Pioli may give Haley a mulligan. If the team isn't winning next season, Haley is probably going to be gone.

Rams Fan · 09-13-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

The defense's job becomes easier if the QB is able to sustain drives and run down the clock. The punter does not go on the field if the QB is able to sustain drives and run down the clock. The team bounces back from the fumble if the QB is able to sustain drives and run down the clock.

Were there a lot of passes dropped Sunday by the Chiefs WRs?

**Bugeater** · 09-13-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Pioli will last though another coach, and if that doesn't work probably another after that.

While that's true, it's not going to be because he has earned it.

el borracho · 09-13-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Oh yeah, I know. I'm just sick of everyone putting Pioli on a goddamn pedestal because Tom Brady won 3 rings for him.

2009 was a mess, as was the 2nd round of the 2010 draft and most likely the Muir as OC experiment (although I'm not sure that was Pioli's decision). Everything else looks reasonably legit. Or is there more? I guess one could complain about the unused cap room but I've never been a "sign everybody" guy.

**Shogun** · 09-13-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Were there a lot of passes dropped Sunday by the Chiefs WRs?

eh not really. just a lot of shitty passes

Crush · 09-13-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Were there a lot of passes dropped Sunday by the Chiefs WRs?

As Shogun has already said, no. Cassel just lacks the ability to accurately throw it farther than five yards.

Messier · 09-13-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

yeppers peppers. Carl lived through multiple questionable hirings. I'm thinking Pioli gets the same. Heck, I'm not even sure Haley would be on the hot seat this season for any reason short of 3-13 or worse.

I think Haley could be in real trouble, even without a complete collapse.

el borracho · 09-13-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Marty as GM and Herm as HC.

I actually always liked Marty. Chargers would probably have some Super Bowls if they hadn't fired Marty and/ or let Brees go. Not sure I would want him as a GM, however.

Herm on the other hand, was a disease laid upon us.

**Bugeater** · 09-13-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

2009 was a mess, as was the 2nd round of the 2010 draft and most likely the Muir as OC experiment (although I'm not sure that was Pioli's decision). Everything else looks reasonably legit. Or is there more? I guess one could complain about the unused cap room but I've never been a "sign everybody" guy.

Well I'm not going to overlook the mess that was 2009, the 20-time executive of the ****ing millennium never should have screwed it up so badly. Most of the problems we're having right now are a direct result of the shitty decisions he made that year.

el borracho · 09-13-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I think Haley could be in real trouble, even without a complete collapse.

Really? What makes you think so?

**Shogun** · 09-13-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I think Haley could be in real trouble, even without a complete collapse.

No

el borracho · 09-13-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Well I'm not going to overlook the mess that was 2009, the 20-time executive of the ****ing millennium never should have screwed it up so badly. Most of the problems we're having right now are a direct result of the shitty decisions he made that year.

While I can't pretend it didn't happen, I would be willing to forgive Pioli if he continues to make good decisions in the future. I will, however, be severely pissed if we pass on another franchise QB in the draft. (Not saying Pioli has done that, just saying that is unforgivable).

Messier · 09-13-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

While that's true, it's not going to be because he has earned it.

Not if he's three coaches in, in 7 years or so. I like Pioli, and I think he'll end up successful here.

View Poll Results: Please select two of the four to build your franchise
Pioli	84	93.33%
Haley	73	81.11%
Cassel	11	12.22%
Muir	7	7.78%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

09-13-2011, 07:49 PM
el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $6259148	Keep any two to build your franchise While I am not conceding the entire 2011 season, I would still say it is obvious that there is room for improvement. Looking forward to 2012, please select two of the four choices to build your franchise. Poll forthcoming.
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