Chiefs Let's talk about the Ravens. - Page 34

Direckshun · 12-03-2018, 12:34 AM

The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?

RINGLEADER · 12-08-2018, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Load up the box, spy Jackson...make him throw.

Chiefs win 38-21

Hell of a gameplan dont ya think? Not sure why I'm sitting here right now posting this, should be in the Chiefs film room helping Sutton out.

They’re going to run the same defense they ran against the Rams. Difference is that Jackson can’t throw the ball with Goff’s accuracy.

carcosa · 12-08-2018, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Look in the mirror.

Extraordinary comeback! Wow!

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-08-2018, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

They’re going to run the same defense they ran against the Rams. Difference is that Jackson can’t throw the ball with Goff’s accuracy.

yamp

Naptown Chief · 12-08-2018, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

Extraordinary comeback! Wow!

Devastating I'm sure. What ever shall you do?

Naptown Chief · 12-08-2018, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

yamp

Yarp

carcosa · 12-08-2018, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dwwataz

Devastating I'm sure. What ever shall you do?

Suicide by cop probably

**New World Order** · 12-08-2018, 05:02 PM

Gosh darnit guys!

We are all Chiefs fans here and we have a huge game tomorrow!

ThaVirus · 12-08-2018, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Luckily, although their secondary is heady, they do lack some speed. We should be able to get behind them a handful of times. Just gotta make the throws and catch it.

I hope this is the game Pat puts together the long game because his deep accuracy has been absolute shit all season.

CasselGotPeedOn · 12-08-2018, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dwwataz

Yarp

Yirp

NJChiefsFan · 12-08-2018, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Defense needs to come out early with a mindset that they are absolutely not going to be pushed around. Set that standard before the playoffs in Arrowhead.

This team wants to bully them around like Tennessee did. Can’t let it happen whatsoever.

We’re liable to see the Steelers in January and they will want to do the same thing. Can’t have it. Be the bully.

I agree. At some point we will probably need to exercise those demons. Especially if we don't have the offense at full strength, which it could be argued, is impossible now.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 12-08-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I hope this is the game Pat puts together the long game because his deep accuracy has been absolute shit all season.

WUT !!

Hog's Gone Fishin · 12-08-2018, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk

I am still shell shocked from the 40+ years of unbelievable ways that this team has found to lose games it should win. I am also still wondering when the dream of having the best young QB in the league will end. So, I'm really conflicted. I want to believe however I am letting the years of disappointment and frustration cloud my enjoyment. Watching the Chiefs defense doesn't fill me with confidence. They let the Raiders hang around after the Raiders have given up two really good players.

Losing Hunt and the way it all happened left me really raw last week.

Okay, I don't really know much about the Ravens, they have looked very good and very bad. The loss of Hunt and Watkins is a lot to overcome.

Chiefs: 37, Ravens: 17

Tomorrow you'll feel better. Mahomes is special.

FAX · 12-08-2018, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

What our 2 losses have in common is the other team making a defensive score.

We don't turn the ball over multiple times we win. Period.

Well said, Mr. Marcellus.

This is a significant data point that's often been overlooked in this season's raging river of factoids.

We were just fine navigating the estuary that leads to NFL perfection when we lost our paddle and our inflatable raft sprung a leak. Suddenly, we were smashed against the rocks and the furious eddies of sacrificed offensive momentum sucked us right to the bottom. The team did their best to rescue our sodden and saturated hopes, but we had swallowed too much water to survive.

If we don't turn the ball over, we send those bastard Cravens over the waterfall of failure right into the roiling sediment of playoff inadequacy.

Chiefs by at least 2 TDs.

FAX

Chiefshrink · 12-08-2018, 07:39 PM

Believe it or not I am believing our defense really shines tomorrow. They have slowly been making more plays as the season has progressed as it is in Arrowhead and our defense usually makes big plays in AH.

Our offense will continue to cruise IMHO regardless of the Balt defense who btw has not seen an offense like ours all year. Our RB by committee will shine as well.

Chiefs 38
Ravens 17

Chiefshrink · 12-08-2018, 07:40 PM

The motivation for this team for the rest of this season is "We do not want to go back to Foxborough". We want them in ARROWHEAD !!

12-03-2018, 12:34 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4233447	Let's talk about the Ravens. The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season. They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown. Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style. But that might change. He may see the field. Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim. We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does. The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past. As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game. The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT. But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative. As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks. #1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game). #1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game). I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here. The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount. Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well. The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage. In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD. They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games. Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point. How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do. What is going on?
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