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Old 12-04-2019, 10:36 AM   #1
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Don’t overpay this under achieving clown.
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:39 AM   #2
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Don’t overpay this under achieving clown.
What a stupid ****ing take. Underachieving?

Dude has 21.5 sacks in the last 2 years (25 games). If that’s “underachieving” I’d love to see what him overachieving would look like.
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:43 AM   #3
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What a stupid ****ing take. Underachieving?

Dude has 21.5 sacks in the last 2 years (25 games). If that’s “underachieving” I’d love to see what him overachieving would look like.
No need to use obscenities when referencing my opinion.
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:46 AM   #4
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No need to use obscenities when referencing my opinion.
It was probably the dumbest take on CP that I’ve seen all season and that says a lot. Congrats?
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:36 AM   #5
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Depends if KC can get premium draft picks en masse then I'm in favor of tagging and trading Chris Jones.

Positional value has changed for this team since PMII isn't as durable as we hoped.

improving the OL and RB positions supercedes the defensive holes in the LB and CB corps.

It's all about protecting Mahomes to ensure a legitimate 10-15 year SB window.
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:41 AM   #6
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For me it all depends.

I love the guy, and think he's great, but there are two factors. One, what's the cost to keep him. Two, what can I get for him.

Just the way the Chiefs are constructed (meaning cap situation) I'm more willing to shop him, especially if I can get a first round pick and another mid round pick. Those picks not only help fill immediate holes on the roster (Oline, LB, CB, RB, and TE) but they help manage the cap and keep the roster young.

So while I'd love to keep Chris Jones, I think the team would be better after a draft that contains two first rounders at key positions.
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:44 AM   #7
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As an FYI, both Gabe Jackson and Rodney Hudson are basically playing on one leg, so I wouldn't make much of a performance against them last time out.
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As an FYI, both Gabe Jackson and Rodney Hudson are basically playing on one leg, so I wouldn't make much of a performance against them last time out.
Lol “one leg” yea sure buddy
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:31 AM   #9
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Lol “one leg” yea sure buddy
Hudson has a badly sprained ankle and Jackson is dealing with an MCL injury.

You tell me now that works out for moving around at north of 300 lbs trying to block guys north of 300 lbs.

I really don't know why we are playing Jackson. Good was playing extremely well, and our OL play has dropped off since Jackson came back.
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As an FYI, both Gabe Jackson and Rodney Hudson are basically playing on one leg, so I wouldn't make much of a performance against them last time out.
How about the first game where you had 1 good drive and sucked ass the rest of the game- does that count?
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If you can get a Frank Clark haul from the trade, I would explore it.

Problem with that is where will the picks be. If a team like Miami would trade one of their firsts or something for him, yeah, lets do that.

I'm just not high on letting drafted, developed players walk. I realize sometimes you have to, but damn, that's ideally what you want and now you wanna let him go.

The Frank Clark deal just kills you.
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If you can get a Frank Clark haul from the trade, I would explore it.

Problem with that is where will the picks be. If a team like Miami would trade one of their firsts or something for him, yeah, lets do that.

I'm just not high on letting drafted, developed players walk. I realize sometimes you have to, but damn, that's ideally what you want and now you wanna let him go.

The Frank Clark deal just kills you.
Frank Clark is part of a larger, more developed problem this franchise has had for several years. The Chiefs have paid huge money to players on long deals and it has killed them. The risk is just way too large.

We were killed by the Justin Houston deal, then the Tamba Hali deal, then the Eric Berry deal and now the Frank Clark deal. Stop making that mistake.

I would also add just how good of a job Daley has done with this DL. Take out Frank Clark and Chris Jones. Now ask yourself what the other guys like Saunders, Nandi, Ogbah and Tanoh have done? Looks like Daley has coached these guys up quite a bit.

Ward is a FA after next year and deserves a deal. You can likely get Ogbah back at a far cheaper price than Jones. I’d sign them and also another player with the remaining $$ instead of paying Jones Frank Clark money.
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With the seeming break out by Nnadi and Saunders he is more expendable. If we can resign Ogbah I would be fine with a tag and trade deal for Jones.
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The smart thing is probably the tag and trade and use those resources to build a younger cheaper defense.

But you have to hit on those picks.
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Jones has 19 Pass Deflections in his Career.
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