***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[RunKC]

Not sure if I missed this, but how long does it take for Pfizer and Moderna to make these vaccines? I believe they said 20 million is coming out this month?

How long until the next rollout and how many are we looking at in that round?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Huh. Fauci said you should get the vaccine even if you had Covid.

"Have had" Covid. I think the point of what you're quoting is that you don't want to get Covid and potentially have health issues when a vaccine is on the horizon.

I'm doubling down on safe behavior now. I don't want to be that guy who gets shot on the last day of World War II.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Not sure if I missed this, but how long does it take for Pfizer and Moderna to make these vaccines? I believe they said 20 million is coming out this month?

How long until the next rollout and how many are we looking at in that round?

I haven't heard but they keep saying by April the vaccine should be available for just about anyone.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

"Have had" Covid. I think the point of what you're quoting is that you don't want to get Covid and potentially have health issues when a vaccine is on the horizon.

I'm doubling down on safe behavior now. I don't want to be that guy who gets shot on the last day of World War II.

Meh....what's life without a little whimsy?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by petegz28

They are definitely going to present a paradigm shift. After a few months the forcing of restrictions and what not are not going to be justifiable. I guess what I am saying is you won't be able to have people who refuse to take the vaccine telling businesses they have to restrict\shut down\wear masks, etc.

Once the vaccine is generally available it's going to be either you take it or .

FTR I know several people, some even medical workers, that are very pro-mask and restrictions and what not but have said they will refuse to take the vaccine. Anecdotal but they are out there.

There is a small sub-set of people that actually kind of like this. Maybe they get to stay working from home, take a break from social stuff, who knows. I don't get it but agreed I know a few of these people.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

When I tell my patients that I think schools will be 100% in session after Spring Break and that the whole country will be open by Memorial Day, they look at me like I'm crazy. But I do. The vaccines are coming fast.

But they do you no good if you get Covid first. Stay safe. https://t.co/kMwEtW8x9e

— Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) December 2, 2020

Rany should stick to baseball.

KCKS schools aren't returning to on-site teaching until April.

An entire year of "education" completely wasted.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Rany should stick to baseball.

KCKS schools aren't returning to on-site teaching until April.

An entire year of "education" completely wasted.

When is spring break there? It's March 22nd-26th here

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

When is spring break there? It's March 22nd-26th here

Teachers back on March 22 then students on April 5.


IMO, if the reason that schools are closed is because of the teachers being at risk more so than the students then that seems very optimistic with regards to logistics.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Teachers back on March 22 then students on April 5.


IMO, if the reason that schools are closed is because of the teachers being at risk more so than the students then that seems very optimistic with regards to logistics.

I guess I'm missing where you disagree with Rany.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

When I tell my patients that I think schools will be 100% in session after Spring Break and that the whole country will be open by Memorial Day, they look at me like I'm crazy. But I do. The vaccines are coming fast.

But they do you no good if you get Covid first. Stay safe. https://t.co/kMwEtW8x9e

— Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) December 2, 2020

Also hated the James shield trade

[petegz28]

Right now they are saying 1/3 of the population (US) should be able to have the vaccine by the end of Feb

[Pants]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Huh. Fauci said you should get the vaccine even if you had Covid.

If you actually read his entire statement, you would know the context and what he ACTUALLY said, pete.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pants

If you actually read his entire statement, you would know the context and what he ACTUALLY said, pete.

I did...pull it out....

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I guess I'm missing where you disagree with Rany.

Not sure if you saw, but hospitalizations are at their lowest point today in about a month.

60 in St Joe.

[TLO]

Parsons is supposed to be holding a press conference in regards to hospital space amongst other things. I'm hopeful he'll give us an idea of how many doses of the Pfizer vaccine Missouri will be getting as well.