***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I’m clearly talking about people who did their part for months now and want to continue with their lives because the mortality rate doesn’t justify continuing on like this. Many of us were led to believe that this was all about flattening the curve and preventing the hospitals from being overrun.

Now it’s looking like you all want everybody to just stop until we have a vaccine or this goes away neither of which is happening for a long time.

If only there was a way to get the R0 below 1, eh?

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's not always about you.

this is what people dont get, or that they really dont care.

[dirk digler]

Aly dropping truth

Tbh, I wouldn’t get in this pool even if there wasn’t a worldwide health pandemic pic.twitter.com/ZYT5pjeYp4

— Aly Trost (@AlyTrost) May 24, 2020

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

this is what people dont get, or that they really dont care.

And like I said, there it is. "You just don't care....". That's the biggest ****ing straw man bullshit in this entire thread.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And like I said, there it is. "You just don't care....". That's the biggest ****ing straw man bullshit in this entire thread.

except its not a strawman, people literally give no ****s.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Does mean that if the public location doesn't require you to wear one, you do not?

Yes I’ve been to a couple restaurants and didn’t wear one because in order to ****ing eat I kind of have to take it off anyways.

Mind you, I live in Key West where that hasn’t been a case for weeks and a total of 3 people have died.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Aly dropping truth

Tbh, I wouldn’t get in this pool even if there wasn’t a worldwide health pandemic pic.twitter.com/ZYT5pjeYp4

— Aly Trost (@AlyTrost) May 24, 2020

What truth? That no one is forcing her to get in that pool?

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Donger

That was part of it, yes. The primary goal was to minimize cases.

Not according to my county and state. It was always about "flattening the curve" so as to not overwhelm medical facilities all at the same time. The goal posts began moving after the first 2 weeks. Kids were only going to miss Up to 2 weeks of school max.........

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Aly dropping truth

Tbh, I wouldn’t get in this pool even if there wasn’t a worldwide health pandemic pic.twitter.com/ZYT5pjeYp4

— Aly Trost (@AlyTrost) May 24, 2020

All I can think of when I see that is how many people have pissed in there, lol.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

except its not a strawman, people literally give no ****s.

No, it's a huge ****ing straw man. Get the **** out with that shit.

[kcxiv]

lol, i think common sense tells you them 2 go hand in hand.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Not according to my county and state. It was always about "flattening the curve" so as to not overwhelm medical facilities all at the same time. The goal posts began moving after the first 2 weeks. Kids were only going to miss Up to 2 weeks of school max.........

I put him on iggy yesterday and I am so glad when I see this shit. I don't even need to see what you are quoting to know he is spewing his BS about flattening the curve wasn't about preventing a run on the hospitals though every ****ing person who was talking when we did this said that exact thing.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No, it's a huge ****ing straw man. Get the **** out with that shit.

no, its the truth! Spin it how you want and **** your strawman bullshit. If people cared about others, they would be smart about it.

[Donger]

Jodi Akins visited Backwater Jacks Bar & Grill in Osage Beach, Missouri, on Saturday for a pool party.

Akins, from Blue Springs, went with four friends and acknowledged it was hard to social distance but said the bar took their temperatures before going in.

"Me and four of my friends attended the pool party. When we walked up my first words were 'oh my gosh' it was intense for sure!! Social distancing was nonexistent. However everyone was enjoying themselves. It was a very carefree environment but security was heavy," Akins told CNN.

Akins said the bar had bottles of hand sanitizer for patrons to use.

The bar posted on Facebook that this was its of summer launch party called "Zero Ducks Given Pool Party." It advertised several DJs and bands performing throughout the event.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Bowser

All I can think of when I see that is how many people have pissed in there, lol.

Exactly but Pete doesn't understand that. Combo of STD, piss and cornovirus and it will create some new mutant virus lol