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Direckshun · 12-03-2018, 12:34 AM

The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-06-2018, 05:14 PM

There’s honestly no excuse to let this Ravens offense succeed Sunday. They are as one dimensional on offense as anything we’ve seen since Tebow.

Sell out for the run and get the lead, then keep selling out until they actually show that they’re going to put the game in Jackson’s hands.

RunKC · 12-06-2018, 05:30 PM

Defenses should stay in zone coverage, not bring pressure and play everything in front of them. On 3rd down, I'd rush 3 (I know, I know), and spy Lamar. Interested to see what the Chiefs do as we know their run defense is suspect.
— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) December 5, 2018

I like Geoff’s gameplan. I’d have Hitchens, Ragland and O’Daniel on the field at all times.

Have 10 players within 10 yards of the LOS to be ready for the run or drop into zone.

ThaVirus · 12-06-2018, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Defenses should stay in zone coverage, not bring pressure and play everything in front of them. On 3rd down, I'd rush 3 (I know, I know), and spy Lamar. Interested to see what the Chiefs do as we know their run defense is suspect.
— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) December 5, 2018

I like Geoff’s gameplan. I’d have Hitchens, Ragland and O’Daniel on the field at all times.

Have 10 players within 10 yards of the LOS to be ready for the run or drop into zone.

With the way our CBs shit the bed when the deep ball's in the air, I'm not sure that's sustainable.

**The Franchise** · 12-06-2018, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

With the way our CBs shit the bed when the deep ball's in the air, I'm not sure that's sustainable.

He has to throw it accurately though. I'm not sure he can do that all game long.

ThaVirus · 12-06-2018, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest

He has to throw it accurately though. I'm not sure he can do that all game long.

Not really. He can draw some DPI and holding calls from inaccurate passes.

MTG#10 · 12-06-2018, 06:47 PM

We're gonna go in on these chumps dry. They'll have bleeding rectums for days.

Halfcan · 12-06-2018, 08:46 PM

Looking forward to payback against the Ravens. The payback tour Rainman outlined starts Sunday!

**New World Order** · 12-06-2018, 09:00 PM

Spoiler!

Marcellus · 12-06-2018, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Not really. He can draw some DPI and holding calls from inaccurate passes.

Nah when you are that inaccurate you dont get the calls.

**MahiMike** · 12-06-2018, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad

Yep...Keep QB Jackson from being their leading rusher.

On the flip side of the ball, our young phenom QB simply cannot be our leading rusher again (or ever). But, With a full week of full reps, Ware & Williams(s) should be fine.

I say Williams won the tryout last week and he gets the bulk of the touches. Also tyreek gets more carries too.

**MahiMike** · 12-06-2018, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnDONsey

lol is his middle name really lavon?

My uncle is named lavons. White guy from Carolina. Weird.

**MahiMike** · 12-06-2018, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikezpen

Ravens fan here.A few thoughts.

We may or may not be a legitimate contender at this point. I don't know if we are that good. But we've changed radically for the better with Lamar Jackson's emergence at QB.Teams have to spread their defense to contain him, and that makes them vulnerable to the straight-ahead running game. Gus Edwards has killed teams running between the tackles and has over 300 yards in three games. With the running game, we dominate time of possession, and we'll have to do that to beat the Chiefs.We need to keep your offense on the bench as we did Atlanta's or we're dead.

Jackson isn't an accomplished passer to be sure, that's our weakness.Hope he improves Sunday because you'll stack about 20 guys in the box to kill our running game!

But the defense held Atlanta's QB to the lowest passing yardage in his career Sunday. Our defense is legit, although it's more of a faceless unit than a bunch of individual standouts.

We also have the best kicker in the immediate world if the game's real close.

This said, I believe you will probably win the game. But we're good enough to be pretty dangerous, so you'd better come to play. Hopefully your team is looking ahead to the Chargers. That would help.

Matt Ryan = Matt Stafford

**MahiMike** · 12-06-2018, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

The Chiefs can beat anybody in the NFL. And I think they're frankly the team to beat.

But with this defense, they could also lose to almost any team on a day when the offense makes mistakes.

Penalties are frankly my biggest worry. Whether there's an agenda or not, penalties could be the difference in a high-stakes game.

70% of our penalties come on pass interference. That won't be a problem for the running quarterback.

BryanBusby · 12-06-2018, 09:43 PM

Put them in a 2 score hole, don't turn the ball over and let the pass-rush get after a scared rookie. It's not complicated.

Frazod · 12-06-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

70% of our penalties come on pass interference. That won't be a problem for the running quarterback.

I'm not worried about the penalties that are called so much as the penalties that aren't called.

12-03-2018, 12:34 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4393447	Let's talk about the Ravens. The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season. They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown. Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style. But that might change. He may see the field. Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim. We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does. The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past. As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game. The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT. But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative. As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks. #1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game). #1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game). I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here. The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount. Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well. The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage. In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD. They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games. Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point. How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do. What is going on?
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