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Old 02-02-2017, 07:27 PM  
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Scott Pioli, a failure with the Chiefs, is back in the Super Bowl

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Behind his desk in Kansas City, placed at just the right angle so you always saw them from the chairs he had set up, Scott Pioli kept replica trophies of the three Super Bowls he helped win back in New England.

They were reminders. Most obviously, they were reminders to whoever sat in those chairs that the man on the other side of the desk had more championship rings than ring fingers.

But they were also reminders for Pioli. He became caricatured for arrogance in Kansas City, but if you watched closely you saw much more insecurity. He wanted to remember the success he had. Wanted to believe he could do it again.

Here, beneath the reality TV headlines of Goodell vs. Brady, is one of the more fascinating subplots of Super Bowl week:

After an epic failure as the No. 1 guy with the Chiefs, Pioli is working for a fourth trophy as a No. 2 against the dynasty he helped build.

It is, if we’re all being honest, an unnecessary slap to those who rooted for the Chiefs on both sides of Pioli’s disastrous run in Kansas City.

Pioli is silent. That’s always been his way. He subscribes to the consensus NFL belief of “one voice.” Learned it in New England, practiced it in Kansas City, and now is part of it again in Atlanta as the Falcons’ director of scouting.

He didn’t go to media night on Monday, and the Falcons’ PR department has been turning down requests to talk with him all week, including from The Star.

He did talk recently to the New York Daily News, however, in an interview specifically approved by Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff.

“I will not root against them,” Pioli said of the Patriots.
“I am going to be pulling for us to do all the right things. I don’t like the whole idea of ever rooting against someone. I don’t want to see anything bad happen to any of those people. It’s just not how I’m built.”

One of Pioli’s problems in Kansas City was his inability to handle pressure. He’d become tense. Second-guess himself. Get paranoid. Lose himself in isolating every single problem that might come up, to the point of counter-production, and become lost. This insecurity drove him to a stunning level of micromanagement.

It’s striking, then, how awkward this week must be for him. Pioli adores Patriots coach Bill Belichick like an older brother. Drove two hours each way to Giants practices in the 1980s just to impress him. Now, he’s trying to beat Belichick for football’s ultimate prize.

Pioli was in charge of the Patriots’ 2000 draft, in which they selected Tom Brady in the sixth round. Still talks to him frequently. Once, when he was trying to get things going in Kansas City, he arranged for Brady to call The Star for a story on Matt Cassel. When the story was published, someone from the Boston Globe joked that The Star had now had more one-on-one interviews with Brady than the Globe.

Pioli’s time in Kansas City is one of the worst stretches of leadership in modern NFL history. You don’t need to be reminded of that. He was justifiably fired, spent a year doing TV, and then was hired by Dimitroff in 2014.

Pioli is to Dimitroff as Belichick is to Pioli. In much the same way Pioli made those long drives to practice and back to impress Belichick, Dimitroff took a groundskeeping job to catch Pioli’s eye in Cleveland. He’d wander into the office after his shift, smelling like mud and sweat, to watch film.

The track record of people leaving the Patriots is famously weak. Pioli’s time in Kansas City is an extreme, but he has company. Romeo Crennel. Josh McDaniels. Matt Cassel. Phil Savage. George Kokinis.

Dimitroff is the exception. He took over the Falcons in 2008, and they immediately went from 4-12 to 11-5. He drafted Matt Ryan, most significantly, but also Devonta Freeman, Vic Beasley, Desmond Trufant and others. He traded up to draft Julio Jones, a move many criticized at the time.

Dimitroff has also provided a bit of a rehabilitation for Pioli. An opportunity to make a difference. The Falcons went from the NFC Championship Game in 2012 to 4-12 the next year. With Pioli’s help, the Falcons have improved each of the last three seasons, including this breakthrough to their first Super Bowl since 1998.

It is impossible to know how much credit Pioli deserves for this. Maybe a lot. Maybe none. Dan Quinn, the Falcons’ second-year coach, has final say on personnel decisions. Pioli doesn’t talk much publicly, and when he does, he knows better than to take any credit.

He could be one of the NFL’s great assistant executives, a man smart and diligent enough to do his own job exceptionally but not equipped to make the ultimate call. He could be one of the NFL’s great GM candidates, a brilliant football mind who will learn from his mistakes in Kansas City.

Or, he could be repetitively fortunate, simply aligned with two superior leaders and riding their drag to success.

Either way, if the Falcons win on Sunday, there is reason to be happy for Pioli.

We all hope we can change. Isn’t that the point? We are not perfect, or particularly close, but if we pay enough attention and give enough of a damn to try, we can at least get better.

This is actually a bedrock of the Chiefs, particularly the current Chiefs. Andy Reid is famous for his ability to see the best in players. Guys who’ve needed second chances for football reasons (Alex Smith, most notably) and legal reasons (Tyreek Hill and Michael Vick) have flourished under his coaching.

Reid, himself, learned from the problems that ended with his being fired in Philadelphia. That’s why the Chiefs hired John Dorsey as general manager: to take on the personnel responsibilities that distracted Reid with the Eagles.

I have no idea if Pioli could be a successful general manager with another shot. Fired GMs don’t typically get second chances in the NFL, but Pioli’s success in New England and now Atlanta could make for a unique case.

Only Pioli knows what changes he’s made, or how he’d approach another chance to lead an NFL franchise. But going to work for someone you used to supervise takes a certain level of humility, and if Pioli is able to see how Dimitroff transitioned from being an assistant in New England to the GM in Atlanta it could help with his own insecurity.

So, in that way, I’ll be happy for Pioli if the Falcons win. Good for him. We’d all like to follow our greatest professional failures with success.

Of course, that doesn’t ease the harsh truth that Pioli is in the Super Bowl before the Chiefs. Sports can’t give us everything, I guess.
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Old 02-02-2017, 07:35 PM   #2
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No. This year will be an exception to every year past. I don't care that KC has become redemption central for players.

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Old 02-02-2017, 07:44 PM   #3
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I realize that 'Winning the Lottery' is a ChiefsPlanet Lexicon term to mean a Chiefs Superbowl win or playoff win, but really, there is no term to epitomize the plucking of Brady from the 6th round of the draft other than winning the lottery.

Pioli didnt know what he had and in a league that pretty much gives carte blanche to any QB, Brady was the lottery.

NE doesnt do shit with any other QB...until Brady is gone, I refuse to believe that it's Belichick and his schemes. The guy is second to none and the best QB in the NFL and probably considered the best QB in the NFL.

Pioli has made much mileage out of his lottery ticket. Much like Shaka Smart has parlayed his final four with VCU to a top tier coaching job. Eventually, it wears off...
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Old 02-02-2017, 07:49 PM   #4
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I realize that 'Winning the Lottery' is a ChiefsPlanet Lexicon term to mean a Chiefs Superbowl win or playoff win, but really, there is no term to epitomize the plucking of Brady from the 6th round of the draft other than winning the lottery.

Pioli didnt know what he had and in a league that pretty much gives carte blanche to any QB, Brady was the lottery.

NE doesnt do shit with any other QB...until Brady is gone, I refuse to believe that it's Belichick and his schemes. The guy is second to none and the best QB in the NFL and probably considered the best QB in the NFL.

Pioli has made much mileage out of his lottery ticket. Much like Shaka Smart has parlayed his final four with VCU to a top tier coaching job. Eventually, it wears off...
Coaching matters. As much as the Patriots have pushed the rules at just about every available avenue, Belichick might be the best coach in the history of the sport at almost every aspect of being the head guy outside of having a good public face with the media.
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Old 02-02-2017, 07:53 PM   #5
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Coaching matters. As much as the Patriots have pushed the rules at just about every available avenue, Belichick might be the best coach in the history of the sport at almost every aspect of being the head guy outside of having a good public face with the media.
He didnt do shit in Cleveland...did he suddenly have an epiphony in NE? Possibly...I still believe it comes down to talent. If, as you state, that he's the reason, then Brady is not a HOF QB and just some average joe who exploited a coaches scheme. I tend to disagree.
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Old 02-02-2017, 07:56 PM   #6
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Riding someone else's coat tails again. If he is ever running that franchise he will bury it in the silt just like he did ours.
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Old 02-02-2017, 07:59 PM   #8
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This is exactly why I'm not watching. Regardless of what happens, someone I truly despise is walking away as a champion. **** 'em all.
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This is exactly why I'm not watching. Regardless of what happens, someone I truly despise is walking away as a champion. **** 'em all.
I would rather see Goodell kicked in the nuts than Pioli. Pioli ruined our franchise for a time. Goodell is ruining the entire game.
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I would rather see Goodell kicked in the nuts than Pioli. Pioli ruined our franchise for a time. Goodell is ruining the entire game.
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Too much angle on this story.

Pioli isn't even really the #2 in Atlanta - McKay is.

KC needs to get over this charlatan. We are in great hands with Dorsey/Reid.
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The article should have been "Yeah, we weren't able to interview Pioli so we got nothin. The end."
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it was tl;dr the second time.


it might have been more interesting if you would somehow explain this into a long john silver fish basket. a fair amount of us eat fish on fridays.
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