Brett Veach

[Titty Meat]

Good job with the interior line bud. Keep spending all our resources on overpaid defensive players and draft picks who dont do shit

[el borracho]

Chiefs don’t seem to be getting enough from the draft.
2016: Jones, Hill, and Robinson
2017: Mahomes
2018: Nadi
2019: Hardman, and Thornhill

Last 4 drafts have netted a total of 4 starters and 3 backups. I guess you can add Clark to the list, but we’re not done paying for him yet. Need to do a better job with our resources. Quit trading away picks, try to acquire extra picks, and generally make better selections with the picks we have.
We have assembled a reputable coaching staff- let’s give them more to work with.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Ragland actually played fairly well that year and cost little to nothing. There’s a reason so many were disappointed in him last year after showing promise in 2017. It was a decent move at the time considering we had absolutely nothing next to DJ.

Seriously, have you ever been right about anything in your life? JFC.

Grown folks are talkin if you wanna cheerlead so bad tryouts are next spring. Veach sucks.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Grown folks are talkin if you wanna cheerlead so bad tryouts are next spring. Veach sucks.

Yea he sucks so bad he’s one of the biggest reasons we have an MVP QB and will be SB contenders year in and year out. Just awful.

I find it hilarious how many idiots on CP think they know so much better than the guy that saw Mahomes as the next great QB before anybody else. I’m not even saying he’s been good, but to say he flat out sucks is laughable.

[MightyMouse]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea he sucks so bad he’s one of the biggest reasons we have an MVP QB and will be SB contenders year in and year out. Just awful.

I find it hilarious how many idiots on CP think they know so much better than the guy that saw Mahomes as the next great QB before anybody else. I’m not even saying he’s been good, but to say he flat out sucks is laughable.

Now people believe he was responsible for getting Mahomes?

Veach is traaaaaaaaash. Has been trash and I’ve said before the loss. Has bad tunnel vision. Doesn’t know how to build a team around a star qb, can’t draft worth a crap.
I’ll keep posting it, having Mahomes is a blessing and will keep the Chiefs competitive but we will not get the most out of his years here because the organization failed huge with Veach. I’ve been through enough has a chief fan to not still enjoy these years with a elite QB but there is a frustration that comes with a terrible GM that isn’t going away soon

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MightyMouse

Now people believe he was responsible for getting Mahomes?

Veach is traaaaaaaaash. Has been trash and I’ve said before the loss. Has bad tunnel vision. Doesn’t know how to build a team around a star qb, can’t draft worth a crap.
I’ll keep posting it, having Mahomes is a blessing and will keep the Chiefs competitive but we will not get the most out of his years here because the organization failed huge with Veach. I’ve been through enough has a chief fan to not still enjoy these years with a elite QB but there is a frustration that comes with a terrible GM that isn’t going away soon

This isn’t a matter of belief. It’s a matter of fact. This is according to both parties (Chiefs and Mahomes’ team/those at TT). It started well before his Junior/last year. You can ignore the facts if you want, but it doesn’t change them.

The Chiefs just had a damn good draft and both of our 2nd round picks have been day 1 contributors. He’s had one bad draft and one good, both picking late with no 1st. Saying he sucks is just as stupid as saying he’s great. The jury is clearly still out.

No matter how many times you say it you aren’t good at this. You’re a moron.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by MightyMouse

Now people believe he was responsible for getting Mahomes?

Veach is traaaaaaaaash. Has been trash and I’ve said before the loss. Has bad tunnel vision. Doesn’t know how to build a team around a star qb, can’t draft worth a crap.
I’ll keep posting it, having Mahomes is a blessing and will keep the Chiefs competitive but we will not get the most out of his years here because the organization failed huge with Veach. I’ve been through enough has a chief fan to not still enjoy these years with a elite QB but there is a frustration that comes with a terrible GM that isn’t going away soon

I wouldn't be surprised if he hyped mahomes up to the Chiefs brass. But yeah, I'm tired of that narrative too. The same damn narrative that turned Mike mccoy and Adam gase into geniuses because they thrived under Peyton manning. The narrative that he had a ton of power over Reid and Dorsey and Ballard... Not buying that. He's gotta do a hell of a lot more to cement his legacy. They always say the top picks go to the GM and the later picks go to the scouts and Id have to think that was the case here.

[Easy 6]

Lose one close game and let’s shitcan Veach, gimme a ****ing break

I understand and agree with many of the complaints, but this kind of kneejerk response is simply pathetic... tell you what, everyone ready to can him should pool their money and fly a banner from some rinkydink little drone

Because that’s all the 10-20 of you will be able to afford

[MightyMouse]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Which is why the 2 year contract with a 3rd year opt out was smart. Unless Andy goes full Reidtard and demands to keep hm next season, we will have paid Sammy one year of a big hit. Let me repeat that...

one year of a high cap hit
one year of a high cap hit
one year of a high cap hit
one year of a high cap hit

Get it now?

Year 1-$7.8 million cap hit aka CHEAP
Year 2-$19.2 million cap hit
Year 3-Can trade or cut and save $14 million

I know Sammy is hurt consistently. I want to trade him next Spring, BUT the risk for a contract set up that way was low. This isn’t Frank Clark’s 5 year deal. This was a perfect structure for a risky player like Sammy.

And btw, Sammy was worth every penny last year despite being hurt a lot of the season. We get blown out at home by New England without Sammy. That’s how good he was in the 2nd half of that game.

This take is so bad.
You have know it’s bad when your point is
-you can trade him next year, not happening man, NO ONE is taking salary hit when they can just sign him cheaper when he is cut
-very political to say he saves 14mil and not the truth, that it cost you dead cap.
He has literally been the exact player fans should have expected and that’s not worth the cap hit this year and dead cap next.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I wouldn't be surprised if he hyped mahomes up to the Chiefs brass. But yeah, I'm tired of that narrative too. The same damn narrative that turned Mike mccoy and Adam gase into geniuses because they thrived under Peyton manning. The narrative that he had a ton of power over Reid and Dorsey and Ballard... Not buying that. He's gotta do a hell of a lot more to cement his legacy. They always say the top picks go to the GM and the later picks go to the scouts and Id have to think that was the case here.

What the **** are you talking about? Literally nobody has ever said that and you clearly don’t even get the point if that’s what you think is being said.

The Chiefs and Mahomes’ team are just conspiring to give Veach the credit huh? It was all a lie for what exactly? Because if you’re going against the “narrative” that Veach was the first guy pounding the table for Pat is false that’s exactly what you’re saying since that “narrative” comes from both sides.

[staylor26]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports....165452074.html

It’s all right there for any of you morons that don’t believe it.

[MightyMouse]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I wouldn't be surprised if he hyped mahomes up to the Chiefs brass. But yeah, I'm tired of that narrative too. The same damn narrative that turned Mike mccoy and Adam gase into geniuses because they thrived under Peyton manning. The narrative that he had a ton of power over Reid and Dorsey and Ballard... Not buying that. He's gotta do a hell of a lot more to cement his legacy. They always say the top picks go to the GM and the later picks go to the scouts and Id have to think that was the case here.

Yup and this a thing that is a popular narrative whenever a GM or position coach is hired. They want to believe he is the reason behind a players success because he was there but it makes us feel good so we run with it.
Mahomes has been taking a beating all year but it’s been ignored because we won. These conversations should have been obvious earlier.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by staylor26

What the **** are you talking about? Literally nobody has ever said that and you clearly don’t even get the point if that’s what you think is being said.

The Chiefs and Mahomes’ team are just conspiring to give Veach the credit huh? It was all a lie for what exactly? Because if you’re going against the “narrative” that Veach was the first guy pounding the table for Pat is false that’s exactly what you’re saying since that “narrative” comes from both sides.

Another interesting point, why hasn't there been a counterpoint article that Veach's role was total bullshit? If anything, you'd get that leaked info out of Cleveland by now to prop up Dorsey.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea he sucks so bad he’s one of the biggest reasons we have an MVP QB and will be SB contenders year in and year out. Just awful.

I find it hilarious how many idiots on CP think they know so much better than the guy that saw Mahomes as the next great QB before anybody else. I’m not even saying he’s been good, but to say he flat out sucks is laughable.

He wasnt the GM dumbass and you act like he was drafted in the 6th round. He was drafted in the 1st with 4 other teams trying to trade up to get him.

[Titty Meat]

S Taylor is melting down and its hilarious

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

He wasnt the GM dumbass and you act like he was drafted in the 6th round. He was drafted in the 1st with 4 other teams trying to trade up to get him.

And people have the nerve to say I’m talking out of my ass?

I provided a link to support my claims. Why don’t you do the same?