Jaguars open to trading Ramsey this offseason.

[O.city]

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Well there’s one of the Raiders first rounders

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Not necessarily. Minnesota is basically a .500 team with Cousins and they have better skill position players on offense than he’d have in Jacksonville.

Cousins is horribly overrated.

[RunKC]

This clown said Josh Allen was a trash QB in August and now he watched the guy beat his team

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Cousins is horribly overrated.

I thought I was the only one who thinks Cousins is overrated and way overpaid. I have a friend who is from Minnesota, and he said if Cousins leads them to the SB his ridiculous contract will be worth it. But, I don't think he is leading them to a SB at all.

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[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Some team will give up two first rounders AND make him the highest paid corner in the NFL. Hope it's NOT the Chiefs.

This. In fact, I made a giant ass thread about it just last week.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Hoover

The beauty of trading for him is that you get him cheap in 2019, then the 5th year option, but the guy is going to want to get paid when traded.

For the Chiefs, I wouldn't even blink. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Agreed. I would give up our bottom 5 1st rd pick in 19 for him and then with our 2 seconds I get the best safety if available and then best ILB if available.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Steven Nelson is gonna want to get paid starter money next year.

I’d MUCH RATHER trade for JR and get him for the next 2 cheap years while Mahomes is on his rookie deal and that upgrades the talent at CB while also keeping the money in the wallet to extend Hill and Jones...then Ramsey the next year...then Mahomes.

Opposing offenses are being forced to pass a ton and Ramsey can erase the opposing teams top wideout almost every week.

He literally changes the whole way we would be able to play defense and that’s HUGE for a team that already has a crop of young talented pass rushers.

Who gives a shit if we would trade a first and second for him...not me. Especially with those picks at the end of the rounds.

Agreed. And SN on a good defense is a backup IMHO. I give up this year's 1st and a 5th and no more. Is he worth that additional 2nd we have ? Of course BUT we need to address LB and safety positions IMHO and we desperately need those 2 2nds to do so.

[bricks]

Honestly, **** Jalen Ramsey.

He is a stupid mother****er that is way over his head.

You know he is stupid when he says shit like being able to crack an NHL roster in a short time span without every practicing or playing the game of hockey before. He is just way too over confident.

And he is an condescending jackass. Calling Josh Allen trash and a pick waiting to happen...Yeah well what did you do today **** face? Exactly, zero. And in the meantime he motivated the Bills and Josh Allen to play better. They had this game circled on their calendar.

And Im happy the Bills won to throw it back in that punks face.

I know Ramsey is talented and has great abilities and all but just no level headedness. I can’t see him being a good fit here. For the most, the Hunt family doesn’t usually recruit those type of players or people into their franchise if you think about it from a historical perspective.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Signing ET is the kind of move that Seattle and Denver made years ago that put them over the hump to win Super Bowls (Ware, Talib, Michael Bennett, etc) so I really think Veach will look into it hard.

But trading for Ramsey would be just an insane boost for this team. Even if you’re worried about his attitude or whatever, how big of a problem is it when they’re winning? He’d finally be playing with a competent QB. I think it’s a great fit.

I'm assuming the Raiders will offer one of their 1's. Which will be higher that ours. They will ask for a 2nd too to beat the Raiders.

The complication is you are only getting 2 years out of the guy. We cant pay the guy after that. We have Hill and Hunt due in 2 years also. We have to pay Hill. Now its a Ramsey/Hunt choice. Mahomes next year after that. Jones is going to get paid. etc.etc.

It boils down to we go all in for these last 2 years of the rookie deals with our core players? Sacrifice a 1st/2nd?

Does Ramsey help our defense more than the 1st/2nd? For those two years, seems the answer is obvious to me anyway, yes. If only for 2 years, is it worth it? Again, for me anyway, who's been waiting for another Super Bowl win since hippies were protesting in the streets, the answer is hell yes, count me in.

[Buckweath]

Zero chance the Chiefs trade for Ramsey.

The Chiefs will roll with Fuller, draft picks and maybe a FA.

[carcosa]

Have we traded for this piece of shit yet??!!??!!

[DJ's left nut]

Ramsey's talent is spectacular.

But it's becoming more and more apparent that he's part of the problem in Jacksonville, IMO. A bunch of mouthy frontrunners with no leadership and a glass jaw. Watching Ramsey talk shit to the Bills sideline in a game they LOST is just laughable. Doubly so when his team has lost, what, 8 of 9? Something ridiculous like that.

He's supposed to be a key leader of a team that is clearly spiraling out of control. You bring him in here and he'll pull the same shit and try to take command of the lockkerroom here. Berry and Houston are getting older and I'm not convinced someone like Jones couldn't be 'turned' into that same kind of guy with the wrong influences.

I can't deny Ramsey's talent but there's no damn way I'd give what he'd cost. Let the Raiders have him - he'll fit right in with that shit show.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ramsey's talent is spectacular.

But it's becoming more and more apparent that he's part of the problem in Jacksonville, IMO. A bunch of mouthy frontrunners with no leadership and a glass jaw. Watching Ramsey talk shit to the Bills sideline in a game they LOST is just laughable. Doubly so when his team has lost, what, 8 of 9? Something ridiculous like that.

He's supposed to be a key leader of a team that is clearly spiraling out of control. You bring him in here and he'll pull the same shit and try to take command of the lockkerroom here. Berry and Houston are getting older and I'm not convinced someone like Jones couldn't be 'turned' into that same kind of guy with the wrong influences.

I can't deny Ramsey's talent but there's no damn way I'd give what he'd cost. Let the Raiders have him - he'll fit right in with that shit show.

Man, that's a lot of truth. I get it. But don't corners these days kind of have to be like that? Atleast a little?

The Chiefs aren't likely to make a deal for the guy, totally understandable if they don't. Team chemistry is a big deal and not something to be ****ed with.

But if they did do it, it would be because Andy could or atleast thinks he could handle him.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by O.city

Man, that's a lot of truth. I get it. But don't corners these days kind of have to be like that? Atleast a little?

The Chiefs aren't likely to make a deal for the guy, totally understandable if they don't. Team chemistry is a big deal and not something to be ****ed with.

But if they did do it, it would be because Andy could or atleast thinks he could handle him.

A little confidence and arrogance can be healthy. Ramsey is so ****ing far past that point.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Man, that's a lot of truth. I get it. But don't corners these days kind of have to be like that? Atleast a little?

The Chiefs aren't likely to make a deal for the guy, totally understandable if they don't. Team chemistry is a big deal and not something to be ****ed with.

But if they did do it, it would be because Andy could or atleast thinks he could handle him.

Uh....no.

My old man has made me a John Wayne fan and one of my favorite John Wayne movies is Rio Bravo. There's an exchange in there after Ricky Nelson's character (Colorado) walks away from a fight. A guy says something like "he's not like the usual kid with a guy, I wonder if he's as good as they say he is..."

The Duke does Duke stuff and responds "I'd say he is. I'd say he's so good he doesn't feel he has to prove it..."

Ramsey's shit is insecurity, IMO. And it's stupid because he IS that good. But what the **** benefit is there in running his mouth? No, he absolutely doesn't have to be like that. He's good enough that he doesn't have to prove it. Haden pre-injury was like that. Peterson was like that. There are a lot of elite corners that were like that - but Ramsey adheres to the Revis Island school of CB play.

I'm just not interested in adding that to this mix. Doug Marrone is taking a lot of bullets for this nonsense but truth be told, I don't think there's a thing he can do to bring that team to heel - there are just too many volatile personalities.

The counterpoint is that Peters is still every bit the shitheel he's ever been in LA but it's contained because they're winning. The problem is that he's still walking a tightrope there, IMO, and could melt-down at any time. Moreover, he's on a clock; he has a 2-3 year shelf life there as well, just as Ramsey would have here.

I'd probably give up for Ramsey what the Rams gave up for Peters and do so knowing full well that there's a risk the whole thing could blow up on us and that we can't extend him (we don't to be there when that bomb goes off). Those 2 are very similar situations. But let's also remember that his 5th year option will cost about $14 million so when we talk about 'cheap' years - that 5th year isn't really that cheap. It's a tick below market, but not a ton. So if you're asking me to give up more than a 2nd for that....hard pass.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

The Jaguars are willing to keep Bortles but are willing to trade Ramsey? Haha okay I mean thats why that franchise has been a dumpster fire for years and years.