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Old 01-29-2013, 10:24 PM   #1
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Basically this. his arm isn't as strong as genos.
oh for sure i think mechanically he's tapped out, i think he can get a little stronger but not much. But also in that list we've been talking about of QB's in the league i would put barkley's arm in the top half of the league right now the way it sits. Yes geno as far as arm talent has a higher ceiling then barkley.

I don't think matt has hit his ceiling as a QB though. he's a smart kid with very very high football IQ. with changing plays and audibling at the line he could very well become the chess match guru like peyton is at the line.

what about this as a connection. Andy reid is mormon.. Barkley is mormon.. #1 overall? lol
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:29 PM   #2
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oh for sure i think mechanically he's tapped out, i think he can get a little stronger but not much. But also in that list we've been talking about of QB's in the league i would put barkley's arm in the top half of the league right now the way it sits. Yes geno as far as arm talent has a higher ceiling then barkley.

I don't think matt has hit his ceiling as a QB though. he's a smart kid with very very high football IQ. with changing plays and audibling at the line he could very well become the chess match guru like peyton is at the line.

what about this as a connection. Andy reid is mormon.. Barkley is mormon.. #1 overall? lol
I don't see any Peyton Manning in Barkley, sorry.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:32 PM   #3
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I don't see any Peyton Manning in Barkley, sorry.
not yet no but i think he has the smarts and the drive to push himself to try to get there. smart with pre-snap reads, smart with audibles, very good at manipulating defenses with his eyes, has a great pumpfake, student of the game and has been being groomed since a boy to do this. I think barkley has the highest floor out of the QB's and has just as high a ceiling as the others.

really wish he was taller though
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:35 PM   #4
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not yet no but i think he has the smarts and the drive to push himself to try to get there. smart with pre-snap reads, smart with audibles, very good at manipulating defenses with his eyes, has a great pumpfake, student of the game and has been being groomed since a boy to do this. I think barkley has the highest floor out of the QB's and has just as high a ceiling as the others.

really wish he was taller though
This is where you are getting off though. His physical abilities don't allow him to have as high of a ceiling as the others.


All that stuff you just said is great, and I'm sure he could be great at it. But in the end he has to have arm strength and accuracy to get the ball where it needs to go.


Thats what I question.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:36 PM   #5
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I can see Barkley succeeding here. We have the talent/coaching to help him out.

Charles has helped much worse look like a competent *ahem Cassel*
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I can see Barkley succeeding here. We have the talent/coaching to help him out.

Charles has helped much worse look like a competent *ahem Cassel*
ABG right?
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:43 PM   #7
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I can see Barkley succeeding here. We have the talent/coaching to help him out.

Charles has helped much worse look like a competent *ahem Cassel*
I can see Barkley fitting in a lot of places and playing right away.

I don't see him as a guy taking the team on his back and winning in the NFL though.
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not yet no but i think he has the smarts and the drive to push himself to try to get there. smart with pre-snap reads, smart with audibles, very good at manipulating defenses with his eyes, has a great pumpfake, student of the game and has been being groomed since a boy to do this. I think barkley has the highest floor out of the QB's and has just as high a ceiling as the others.

really wish he was taller though
Just don't agree at all.

He has the highest floor, yes. But his ceiling isn't close to Wilson's or Geno's.
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Just don't agree at all.

He has the highest floor, yes. But his ceiling isn't close to Wilson's or Geno's.
I'm not sure I'd go that far. Barkley can be another Matt Ryan if he goes into the right situation.

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I'm not sure I'd go that far. Barkley can be another Matt Ryan if he goes into the right situation.

IMO, of course.
Personally, I'd say the Matt Ryan comparison is spot on. Then again, I'm not a Matt Ryan fan. I think he's another high-end game manager.
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Personally, I'd say the Matt Ryan comparison is spot on. Then again, I'm not a Matt Ryan fan. I think he's another high-end game manager.
Agree with matt ryan comparison.. BUt i like that cause i think matt ryan is a DAMN DAMN DAMN good QB and i wanted us to take him if it wasn't for the damn coin flip!!!!!

matt ryan will get his team there someday if they continue to build it right and replace the aging pieces.
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Personally, I'd say the Matt Ryan comparison is spot on. Then again, I'm not a Matt Ryan fan. I think he's another high-end game manager.
You wouldn't take Matt Ryan with our top pick and be happy?

I sure as **** would.
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