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Old 01-13-2019, 01:38 PM  
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Let's talk about the Patriots

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Old 01-17-2019, 05:51 PM   #2086
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You're stupid if you believe this.

If what you say is true then there should be little to no difference between a the winning % of favorites/underdogs playing at home or on the road, because after all, it's all about whose the better team. But that aint the case:

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/tre...rly_since_2003

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/tre...rly_since_2003
Interesting but point spreads are based on attracting money and balancing the payouts. They slide up/down based on the intake expectations. I know you know this.

Fact: Since 2002 only 5.5 % of NFL games landed on the line exactly. What does that tell you?

In my view the links the links aren't really supporting your position. It's good data but not representative of actual games that are played.

We've debated this all day . Let's talk about the game.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:07 PM   #2087
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:21 PM   #2088
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Here's the thing.

The Patriots often rough up WR's. The hold Travis Kelce all the time. They do it well, and it doesn't get called.

If our DB's have a primary weakness, it's defensive holding/PI.

The Patriots are going to mug our guys, it's a given. But if the refs are letting them play a little bit because it's the playoffs, our DBs will get to do the same thing.

So while it's not an advantage for the Chiefs, it at least levels the playing field.
A major help for us will be loosely called DPI. If the refs start Hammering Ward and Nelson for DPI it's going to be a long game.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:46 PM   #2089
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The Chiefs do have a traditional fullback on the roster. He made the Pro Bowl this season.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:11 PM   #2090
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Interesting but point spreads are based on attracting money and balancing the payouts. They slide up/down based on the intake expectations. I know you know this.

Fact: Since 2002 only 5.5 % of NFL games landed on the line exactly. What does that tell you?

In my view the links the links aren't really supporting your position. It's good data but not representative of actual games that are played.

We've debated this all day . Let's talk about the game.
Color me shocked... lol...
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:15 PM   #2091
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With Patriots for good or bad, it isn't just the fullback which a lot of teams don't have or Brady being used to cold weather but the team has tended to usually favor hitting/strength over speed.

Eugene Chung and Rodney Harrison kind of examples of some players that other teams may not have prioritized near the end of their careers but I think BB has valued for cold weather/playoff football. They are the sort of players that would play hurt in 0 degree weather and make big hits without flinching.

There is often a tradeoff. Players can have equivalent abilities but one modestly faster player a better at track meet football and others at cold weather playoff football.

I suspect Reid values a fairly traditional balance while BB clearly builds his team for cold weather so at times Patriots are at a speed disadvantage.

That is why in part Patriots fans are more concerned about Hill than other Chiefs opponents.

Put yourself in the Colts gm shoes during the Manning era. Why not build your team with the dome in mind and just hope you get HFA in playoffs. Super Bowl played in warm weather pretty much ever year nowadays.
that's all fine and good, but we played a game last week in a snowstorm and scored 31 points and shut the opposing running game down while running wild.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:18 PM   #2092
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I'm rewatching the game earlier this season, Mahomes missed both Hunt and Hill for easy touchdowns in the red zone on the opening drive. There was maybe a little bit of pressure, but really it just seemed like jitters. Still waiting for that vaunted first-half defense of the Patriots before they inexplicably abandoned what was working.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:21 PM   #2093
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Color me shocked... lol...
No kidding, teams not exactly covering half point spreads. Seems less than surprising, and seems to have little to do with the accuracy of the spread
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:37 PM   #2094
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I'm rewatching the game earlier this season, Mahomes missed both Hunt and Hill for easy touchdowns in the red zone on the opening drive. There was maybe a little bit of pressure, but really it just seemed like jitters. Still waiting for that vaunted first-half defense of the Patriots before they inexplicably abandoned what was working.
On the drive after the interception, Mahomes missed Kelce pretty open due to feeling some pressure, leading to a field goal. Kelce was definitely not shut down on that route
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Color me shocked... lol...
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Old 01-17-2019, 09:31 PM   #2097
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Old 01-17-2019, 09:31 PM   #2098
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The last time the Patriots won a road game in the playoffs was the 2006 season at SD.

2015 at DEN (L, 20-18)
2013 at DEN (L, 26-16)
2006 at IND (L, 38-34)
2006 at SD (W, 24-21)
2005 at DEN (L, 27-13)
2004 at PIT (W, 41-27)
2001 at PIT (W, 24-17)[/QUOTE]

That would be because we're always top seed with home field advantage?? LOL
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The patriots are unable to cheat as well on the road as they at home.
You people with the cheating. It's comical at this point. Even if they did "cheat," WHY do you think every coach holds the paper to his mouth? It's because teams plant lip readers in the stands, per my bookie friend. lol
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I'm a Pats fan but that is hilarious. Seriously. Good one. You should print up shirts and sell them during tailgate. You'd make a mint, I'm sure.
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