***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TinyEvel]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Just wait until a week after Thanksgiving. Its confusing ppl thought this thing was going to be easily mitigated when entering cold and flu szn. Its like ppl just put there head in the sand and refused to acknowledge the cold and flu season exists. We acted totally unprepared when we know that increased transmission rates are going to occur like clockwork. If I was a state leader I would have tried to get ahead of this thing. Businesses cant close, at least the 95 pct of them but why ppl are still packing into bars and restaurants is beyond me.

I have no doubt we’ll be back to 2000 deaths a day by the end of this month. I accurately predicted the mid-summer death peak. Deaths follow by 4 weeks. Look at Johns Hopkins numbers 7-day trailing average. This spike started around September 12: 38K cases. It has tripled in 7 weeks. The deaths started climbing October 15 or so. 4 weeks. They’re still going up. Cases are still going up so deaths will be going up for 4 more weeks at least. Yes percent who die is lower but number of cases is triple. More than makes up for it. 2,000 dead per day by thanksgiving if nothing changes

[suzzer99]

This is going to be a dark winter.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Has there been any news with Moderna? I thought we were going to get some early results this month.

In October, the company announced that they had finished recruiting all 30,000 participants in the study, including 7,000 people 65 years or older. Moderna’s trial protocol, which the company shared in September, indicates they will wait until a significant number of volunteers become sick before seeing how many of them were vaccinated.

[O.city]

Nursing homes in our area were told to prepare for widespread vaccinations by early December. So that would be good news

One of the homes in ozark I believe had like 34 deaths. Terrible

[Demonpenz]

One of the nurses at my hospital lost my results and I was pissed. I told her to look harder, so she came out with a shaved head and tattoo. It didn't help.

[petegz28]

This is a tough tip-toe here but I will try. Gov. Cuomo just put NY on a very odd type of lock down. You cannot land in NY without proof of a negative test. If you leave the state and return within 24 hours you must quarantine for 3 days then get tested.

Not sure how any of that is going to be enforced if it is even legal.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

This is a tough tip-toe here but I will try. Gov. Cuomo just put NY on a very odd type of lock down. You cannot land in NY without proof of a negative test. If you leave the state and return within 24 hours you must quarantine for 3 days then get tested.

Not sure how any of that is going to be enforced if it is even legal.

That's beyond moronic.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by TLO

That's beyond moronic.

Probably not as moronic as the avoidance in suggesting supplemental intake of Vitamin D, I feel like.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Probably not as moronic as the avoidance in suggesting supplemental intake of Vitamin D, I feel like.

I'm not sure why vitamin D supplementation hasn't been more highly recommended.

Although I will say that the past couple times I've been to the doctor they've recommended it to me.

[TLO]

We're right around 120,000 new cases today.

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by Otter

I knew a weird chick that had a ferret as a pet in college. Ferrets look a lot like minks...............

And a band..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B0dYcvo8wo

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

We're right around 120,000 new cases today.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by TLO

We're right around 120,000 new cases today.

Oklahoma added 4741 cases today due to a backlog of cases that weren’t reported. They claim it’s from switching from manual to electronic tracking. We usually range from 1-2100 daily.

Our county added 86. We usually sit around 20-40. How many of those cases are cured inactive cases? Why even add all these cases if many of them aren’t even active?

Our school systems depend on accurate case reporting. Anything over 50 daily cases for a week period and they shut school down. Adding backlogged inactive cases is pretty messed up.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

CASES!!!

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

CASES!!!

OOGA BOOGA SCARY