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Old 01-20-2013, 07:28 AM   #1
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Superbowl winning LTs since 2001

2011 - William Beatty - 2nd round, 60th pick

2010 - Chad Clifton - 2nd round 44th pick

2009 - Jermon Bushrod - 4th round 125th pick

2008 - Max Starks - 3rd round 75th pick

2007 - David Diehl - 5th round 160th pick

2006 - Tarik Glenn - 1st round 19th pick

2005 - Marvel Smith - 2nd round 38th pick

2004 - Matt light - 2nd round 48th pick

2003 - Matt Light

2002 - Roman Oben - 3rd round 66th pick

2001 - Matt Light

Wow. Good stuff, thanks.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:56 AM   #2
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I'm surprised to see a thread about us taking a ****ing LEFT TACKLE is still hot.

I'm not gonna read, but please tell me everyone isn't trying to draft this guy
There is no consensus on the Kansas City Chiefs No. 1 pick in the 2013 NFL Draft but several mock drafts are beginning to send Texas A&M OT Luke Joeckel to Kansas City at No. 1. Will Joeckel become the consensus pick as the draft nears?

Get familiar with Luke Joeckel. Mock drafts have repeatedly sent Joeckel to Kansas City -- along with a quarterback here and there -- and Mel Kiper's latest is no different.
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ESPN Mel Kiper Mock Draft:

1) Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel

Analysis: He has started every game at left tackle since he arrived on campus, protects the passer with what could almost be perceived as ease and has zero durability questions after three years against very good competition. Joeckel has been so good, a big question about him at this stage might be whether he's truly nasty enough, a point of pride among elite O-linemen. The kid is a gifted technician at left tackle, and the Chiefs could go with the strategy of drafting their left tackle for the next 10 years here, then taking a shot on the best QB available with the first pick in Round 2. Two needs, two picks. We'll see, but QB value at this draft slot isn't in play right now.
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NFL.com Gil Brandt Mock Draft:

1. Kansas City Chiefs - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M

The Chiefs, who are likely to lose offensive lineman Branden Albert to free agency, take the best player available in the draft.

3. Oakland Raiders - Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia

With lots of needs, the Raiders take their chances with Smith, who carries some risk, but offers a significant potential reward.
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NFLNetwork:

1) Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel
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ESPN Bill Williamson:

1. Kansas City: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M

My take: There is no wrong answer for this pick right now. It is wide open, especially since there are no perfect position fits for the Chiefs.
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SI.com:

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle.
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Draft Countdown:

1) Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:55 AM   #3
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Problem is that we are not in an obvious 1st round QB year. Although I believe that Tyler Wilson is just that..... Not Geno Smith.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:00 AM   #4
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Problem is that we are not in an obvious 1st round QB year. Although I believe that Tyler Wilson is just that..... Not Geno Smith.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:21 AM   #5
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Look the 2 idiots agree.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:03 AM   #6
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Problem is that we are not in an obvious 1st round QB year. Although I believe that Tyler Wilson is just that..... Not Geno Smith.
Why is that?

Smith is my favorite, followed closely by Wilson.

What makes Wilson the guy over Smith?
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:37 AM   #7
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Why is that?

Smith is my favorite, followed closely by Wilson.

What makes Wilson the guy over Smith?
Better arm, better zip, prostyle offense, tough.

Only thing I don't like about Wilson is he has a funky delivery when the ball comes out.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:50 AM   #8
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Better arm, better zip, prostyle offense, tough.

Only thing I don't like about Wilson is he has a funky delivery when the ball comes out.
Better arm, better zip? Uh, NO.

Tough? How many concussions did Smith have? How much time did he miss?
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:54 AM   #9
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Better arm, better zip, prostyle offense, tough.

Only thing I don't like about Wilson is he has a funky delivery when the ball comes out.
Don't forget to mention that he doesn't have very good pocket presence and takes a lot of uneccessary hits that have led to the concussions. Oh, that's right, he's "tough." Which is code for he's got the shit kicked out of him and he now has a red flag because of those concussions.

He also tends to put the ball in the defenders hands when he needs to push the ball downfield.

Better arm than this?:




And this is proper toughness in the pocket:



This is a potential Casselish fetal position dude:



Watch as he shortens his stance and throwing motion when he sees the defender come through in front of him. He also cuts off the deep option and dumps it to the safety read. Not cool.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:56 AM   #10
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Don't forget to mention that he doesn't have very good pocket presence and takes a lot of uneccessary hits that have led to the concussions. Oh, that's right, he's "tough." Which is code for he's got the shit kicked out of him and he now has a red flag because of those concussions.

He also tends to put the ball in the defenders hands when he needs to push the ball downfield.

Better arm than this?:




And this is proper toughness in the pocket:



This is a potential Casselish fetal position dude:



Watch as he shortens his stance and throwing motion when he sees the defender come through in front of him. He also cuts off the deep option and dumps it to the safety read. Not cool.
The bottom one is what every QB coach/OC in the NFL would have him do in that position.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:46 PM   #11
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Don't forget to mention that he doesn't have very good pocket presence and takes a lot of uneccessary hits that have led to the concussions. Oh, that's right, he's "tough." Which is code for he's got the shit kicked out of him and he now has a red flag because of those concussions.

He also tends to put the ball in the defenders hands when he needs to push the ball downfield.

Better arm than this?:




And this is proper toughness in the pocket:



This is a potential Casselish fetal position dude:



Watch as he shortens his stance and throwing motion when he sees the defender come through in front of him. He also cuts off the deep option and dumps it to the safety read. Not cool.
COME ON MAN!!... Way to base your argument on two selective highlight clips.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:44 PM   #12
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Better arm, better zip, prostyle offense, tough.

Only thing I don't like about Wilson is he has a funky delivery when the ball comes out.
The ONLY one thing I don't like about Wilson is his head injuries. That's a fairly big red flag to me, otherwise there is very little I don't like about him.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:41 AM   #13
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Problem is that we are not in an obvious 1st round QB year. Although I believe that Tyler Wilson is just that..... Not Geno Smith.
I agree there isn't A 1st round QB this year. There will be 4 or 5 QB's taken in the 1st round.
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The clip you showed of Geno Smith there was no one near him. The bowl game for Geno bothered me big time.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:25 AM   #15
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The clip you showed of Geno Smith there was no one near him. The bowl game for Geno bothered me big time.
Other than the one where he gets his helmet tore off. There's also another good one in his sophomore year where he gets face masked hard spins and keeps going downfield.

But here's a couple of him standing in the pocket, moving with the pocket with pressure all over him:







And just how does the Bowl game bother you?
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