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Old 10-15-2020, 04:39 PM  
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:09 AM   #646
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Well, certainly not 2018 because he didn't play that year.

I quoted his last season with the Steelers and even the fact that he averaged 90 yards per game with the Jets, the worst team in the league by a wide margin, and all I've heard back is "We'll see".

Look, if Reid can get 90 total yards of offense from Bell and 90 totals yard from CEH, this offense will be on pace to match the 2018 offense.

This move isn't about plugging in a former superstar and expecting him to take over the offense. This move is about a complimentary back to CEH and adding a very versatile player to an offense that already features a lot of versatile players.

Now, maybe Bell absolutely blows up, which would be amazing and awesome for sure. But whatever the case may be, he's at least going to be a great 2nd option for Reid at running back, which is really all anyone can ask for at this point in the season, especially a season as weird as 2020.
Okay, 2019 is what I look at as well. The 3.2 average yards per carry concerns me. I realize it's the Jets, but last time he played for the Steelers he hit exactly 4.0 yards per carry in a nearly ideal scenario that seemed made for him. I do like his receiving ability. My go forward is I'm gonna trust Reid/Veach on this. Unlike McCoy, it isn't some long lost past connection. Hopefully they saw what they wanted on tape that is recent enough to convince them he can fit well and help the team improve.
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:10 AM   #647
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I hope he blows up...KC is looking to get some nice comp picks from Watkins, Bell, Breeland and potentially Taco/Okafor.
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Why is that funny? Unless you thought I meant Speaks and not Bashaud...

I'll admit the comp formula is convoluted but I dont see KC being big spenders in FA next season.

Does losing these players not account for comp picks? Everyone of these players cost KC nothing but salary...Belichick built a career on accumulating comp picks by letting high-priced players walk.
If you think we get anything for Breeland, Taco and or Okafor you are not thinking clearly.
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:17 AM   #648
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I realize it's the Jets
No, I don't think you do.

The NFL is set up for parity. Every team has the same Salary Cap and nearly the same exact revenue stream (merch can skew that number a bit but it's nothing massive). It takes catastrophic management and ownership to go 0-16.

The Jets are an epic disaster across the board. They need new ownership and a complete reboot. To claim that Bell somehow "slipped" in New York is to completely ignore the chaos around the franchise that's existed for decades. The Jets are heading for 0-16 in an era where every team has a shot at a title with the right personnel, front office and coaching staff.

They suck ass and might go down as the worst team in NFL history, surpassing the 2008 Lions.
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:24 AM   #649
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If you think we get anything for Breeland, Taco and or Okafor you are not thinking clearly.
It depends on how much another team pays them...Taco is only in game 5 of his reclamation project.

We'll see if he does anything that warrants getting decently paid somewhere else.

Corners typically get paid...otherwise KC would just keep him.
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No, I don't think you do.

The NFL is set up for parity. Every team has the same Salary Cap and nearly the same exact revenue stream (merch can skew that number a bit but it's nothing massive). It takes catastrophic management and ownership to go 0-16.

The Jets are an epic disaster across the board. They need new ownership and a complete reboot. To claim that Bell somehow "slipped" in New York is to completely ignore the chaos around the franchise that's existed for decades. The Jets are heading for 0-16 in an era where every team has a shot at a title with the right personnel, front office and coaching staff.

They suck ass and might go down as the worst team in NFL history, surpassing the 2008 Lions.
The Jets went 7-9 in 2019, though. I'm not looking at anything from 2020.
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There's a segment who can't get over him sitting out the last franchise year for the Steelers. And won't, ever.

That's OK. Small minds.
They franchised him TWICE. He's a RB. The franchise tag offers zero long-term security.

Somebody already mentioned it - the Titans faced the same situation with Travis Henry, who also happens to be 26, and they paid him.
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They franchised him TWICE. He's a RB. The franchise tag offers zero long-term security.

Somebody already mentioned it - the Titans faced the same situation with Travis Henry, who also happens to be 26, and they paid him.
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Okay, 2019 is what I look at as well. The 3.2 average yards per carry concerns me. I realize it's the Jets, but last time he played for the Steelers he hit exactly 4.0 yards per carry in a nearly ideal scenario that seemed made for him. I do like his receiving ability. My go forward is I'm gonna trust Reid/Veach on this. Unlike McCoy, it isn't some long lost past connection. Hopefully they saw what they wanted on tape that is recent enough to convince them he can fit well and help the team improve.
Nobody on that 2019 Jets team even averaged 4 ypc. They average 3.3 ypc as a TEAM. I know you keep bring up Bilal Powell but the dude only had 59 carries. Hardly a statistically significant sample size.

And it's not even that it's the Jets. Adam Gase NEVER wanted Leveon Bell. It was never going to work in NY because of Gase.
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The Jets went 7-9 in 2019, though. I'm not looking at anything from 2020.
The Jets didn't beat a single team with a winning record in 2019 until Week 17 against the Bills, who rested their players due to their upcoming WC matchup with the Texans.

The Jets are currently 0-5, with a defense that's already given up 161 points, most in the leauge.
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It depends on how much another team pays them...Taco is only in game 5 of his reclamation project.

We'll see if he does anything that warrants getting decently paid somewhere else.

Corners typically get paid...otherwise KC would just keep him.
Yes it is early that is why we have no idea and history is against Taco bringing us a comp pick.
Nobody wanted that corner last year coming off of very good play in the playoffs and Super Bowl. Doubt that changes this offseason.
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The Jets went 7-9 in 2019, though. I'm not looking at anything from 2020.
And Leveon Bell still averaged 83.3 yards per game total.

He was 20th in the league, AMONG ALL PLAYERS, in yards per game.

He had more yards per game than ANYBODY on the entire Chiefs team last year.
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Yes it is early that is why we have no idea and history is against Taco bringing us a comp pick.
Nobody wanted that corner last year coming off of very good play in the playoffs and Super Bowl. Doubt that changes this offseason.
Breeland got suspended...it's the only reason he's still a Chief.

He hedged for another season...there is a market for him.

It comes down to what you lose vs. what you acquire when figuring the comp formula...and how much the players, you've lost, got paid.

Clark cancelled out losing Houston....

Feel free to correct me if I'm off on how this process works.

I'm also curious if, hypothetically, cheaply acquiring Earl Thomas for a late season SB push...would prove a good investment from a comp pick standpoint. He'll get paid decently next year once he redeems himself.
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The Jets are so bad that through 5 games, they've only scored 75 points.

The Chiefs have scored 149 points through 5 games.
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