Football Colin Kaepernick gets over $100 million new deal - Page 12

RunKC · 06-04-2014, 01:59 PM

This changes everything

Pasta Little Brioni · 06-04-2014, 09:35 PM

Kap...class act. GTFO of here.

Kaepernick · 06-04-2014, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch

I think he's got huge upside. He willed the 49'ers back in that SB. He made plays up and down the field and I think has he develops and gets more experience that offense will open up as well...

Kaepernick engineered the comeback against the Falcons in the 2012 NFC Champtionship game, giving the 49ers the NFL all time record for biggest comeback in the 48 year history of the NFC Championship.

Kaepernick won back to back road playoff games. Something never done by Montana or Young.

Kaepernick has more road playoff wins than Montana and Young combined.

I'm not comparing Colin to Hall of Famers, just giving examples of his quality play that glean his future potential.

**Bowser** · 06-04-2014, 09:44 PM

I don't hate the guy, but there is absolutely no way that guy is worth 61 million guaranteed.

I don't know if I can name five guys in the NFL worth 61 million guaranteed.

DTLB58 · 06-04-2014, 09:44 PM

By Andrew Brandt of SI and MMQB.
Five thoughts on the Kaepernick extension.

1) I think the length of Kaepernick’s rookie contract was a key factor. While the NFL took a sledgehammer to the previous rookie compensation system in the new collective bargaining agreement, Kaepernick was one of the few golden ticket winners. Although the second-round earnings on his rookie deal ($5.1 million over four years) paled in comparison to first round riches, he was not saddled with a team option for a fifth year like first-rounders are—for example, the Panthers’ Cam Newton. That would have given the Niners two more years of contract control, and the lack of such leverage worked to Kaepernick’s benefit.

2) I think the 49ers could have played a heavy hand due to Kaepernick’s highly undervalued existing contract. While all the comparable quarterbacks who received extensions over the past year—Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Matt Ryan and Jay Cutler—would have earned double-digit millions the next year absent an extension, Kaepernick would have made approximately $1 million in 2014. With an always-present injury risk, the team could have used his undersized 2014 salary as a hammer here. Based on the reported results, however, they did not.

3) I think Kaepernick showed some admirable loyalty to his agent. It was no secret around the NFL that many of the most powerful agents were circling, anxious to corral one of the top players in the game. With the barbarians at the gate, Kaepernick remained loyal to the agent who helped get him to where he is, Scott Smith of XAM Sports. Too many players leave agents for bigger agents or agencies when their careers advance to another level.

4) I think that, based on their structuring of other veteran contracts, the 49ers are tying significant earnings in the contract to per-game roster bonuses. This feature, which I used in Green Bay and is used by several clubs, allows the player to collect money every week as long as he suits up, while protecting the team if he does not. Using these clauses with Kaepernick, their most important player, would pave the way for their use in upcoming extension talks for players such as Michael Crabtree, Mike Iupati and Aldon Smith.

5) I think that the reports of $110 million or $126 million are just meaningless numbers. As readers of this space know, NFL contracts are not like NBA and MLB contracts, where reported values are real. Even the guarantee is, well, not really all guaranteed. My sense is the reported $61 million guarantee—vaulting Kaepernick to the top of the list in NFL guaranteed money—will be “stair-stepped,” with annual triggers activating different amounts of guaranteed money at different stages of the contract (thus not a “true” guarantee).

Whatever the structure, the Kaepernick deal is striking. With the prospect of making a relatively miniscule amount this season and an uncertain future, he has cashed in to achieve long-term financial security. Somewhere Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson are smiling.

Kaepernick · 06-04-2014, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I swear on my kids souls I'm not saying this just to slam, but its my opinion that this guy will be a perennial disappointment... flashy and talented enough to keep everyone on the edge of their seats, but he believes too much in his own prowess and probably doesn't study enough.

He's Michael Vick 2.01, not Young, in my honest opinion... give the Falcons era Vick this guys Sgt. Rock team and he could've gotten them deep into the playoffs just as easy, shitting the bed all along the way until people started stepping up around him and his pride started bothering him.

He's not a real student of the game and he relies too heavily on his athleticism, that's my honest opinion of the guy.

The beauty is we will find out.

You are wrong about him not being a student of the game. All his life he has had to take criticism that he can't master the mental nuances of leading a football team, because of his crazy athleticism and measurables. People seem not to be able to accept that a guy with his athleticism could also have the keen mind to master running a huddle.

I won't argue with you. Stay tuned, and watch what happens. If he doesn't break out this year with Boldin, Crabtree, and Stevie Johnson, then it will be next year. If I am not saying "I told you so this year", which I think I will be, then it will be next year.

But never mind my confidence. Lets watch 2014 unfold and just see what happens to the 49ers passing game this year.

I think you are going to be very surprised.

**Ragged Robin** · 06-04-2014, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

Kap...class act. GTFO of here.

He's so classy. He's the only QB I've seen throw an INT, then get trucked by the same guy, THEN get up and talk shit to guy's face on national television

L.A. Chieffan · 06-04-2014, 09:54 PM

Foolhardy, QBs aren't worth nearly that much

Pasta Little Brioni · 06-04-2014, 09:55 PM

Guarendamteed this douche pees on his roommate in the shower

Kaepernick · 06-04-2014, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

Kap...class act. GTFO of here.

Yes, what a dirtbag Kap is to say crap like this. What an ingrate...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin Kaepernick

"I don't think I would be at this point so quickly if (Alex Smith) hadn't been such a great mentor to me and helped me along with things," Kaepernick said at a Wednesday news conference to announce the deal. "I'm very grateful for my teammates as well. I wouldn't be here without them."

The douchebag is constantly praising his teammates for everything that goes right and constantly taking responsibility for everything that goes wrong. What a low life...

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Originally Posted by NBC Sports

San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick put the blame squarely on himself for the 49ers’ NFC Championship Game loss in Seattle.

“I didn’t play good enough to win. I turned the ball over three times. I cost us this game,” Kaepernick said.

Kaepernick is right that the three turnovers sealed the 49ers’ fate. San Francisco had three possessions in the fourth quarter, and those three possessions ended with a Kaepernick fumble and two Kaepernick interceptions.

But Kaepernick is wrong to blame himself for the loss as a whole. Kaepernick threw a great pass to Anquan Boldin for a 26-yard touchdown to give the 49ers a 17-10 lead in the third quarter. And Kaepernick was sensational running the ball, with 11 carries for 130 yards — the second-highest rushing total for a quarterback in NFL postseason history, second only to Kaepernick’s 181-yard game against the Packers last year.

So Kaepernick is being too hard on himself in his own assessment of the game. Which may be a good sign that Kaepernick is a young player who will look for ways to better himself this offseason.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-us-this-game/

He needs to learn to scream at his teammates on the bench like Tom Brady.

Chiefshrink · 06-04-2014, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free

I swear on my kids souls I'm not saying this just to slam, but its my opinion that this guy will be a perennial disappointment... flashy and talented enough to keep everyone on the edge of their seats,

Scotty my man, I'm with ya on this. My gut say's the organization will definitely not get their $$ worth on him. Colin could very well be the Alex Rodriguez of football in due time. Maybe not a 1/4 of a billion but you get my point. Yes he will flash at times but that will be about it. His lack of character has started to bleed through not as bad as Alden's but like 'Kaep' said just wait and see.

Kaepernick · 06-04-2014, 10:12 PM

Not only is Kaepernick a class act, but he has a very good head on his shoulders. The big contract won't get to his head...

Quote:

“I don’t think my motivation is money driven,” he said. “I think it’s driven by the success I can have on the field … with my teammates.”

“The three most expensive things I own are my TVs, my bed and my couch,” he said. “I’m going to keep it that way for awhile.”

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/...c-4a5f3d087c96

He is not out there buying mansions for his entire High School graduating class.

Kaepernick · 06-04-2014, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Scotty my man, I'm with ya on this. My gut say's the organization will definitely not get their $$ worth on him. Colin could very well be the Alex Rodriguez of football in due time. Maybe not a 1/4 of a billion but you get my point. Yes he will flash at times but that will be about it. His lack of character has started to bleed through not as bad as Alden's but like 'Kaep' said just wait and see.

Too funny. "Lack of character". You must only watch TMZ.

In what way does Kaepernick "lack character"?

Too funny.

Chiefshrink · 06-04-2014, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Too funny. "Lack of character". You must only watch TMZ.

In what way does Kaepernick "lack character"?

Too funny.

Nothing personal man, but keep your 'knee pads on' because you will definitely need them these next 2-3yrs.

Jakemall · 06-04-2014, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

The beauty is we will find out.

You are wrong about him not being a student of the game. All his life he has had to take criticism that he can't master the mental nuances of leading a football team, because of his crazy athleticism and measurables. People seem not to be able to accept that a guy with his athleticism could also have the keen mind to master running a huddle.

I won't argue with you. Stay tuned, and watch what happens. If he doesn't break out this year with Boldin, Crabtree, and Stevie Johnson, then it will be next year. If I am not saying "I told you so this year", which I think I will be, then it will be next year.

But never mind my confidence. Lets watch 2014 unfold and just see what happens to the 49ers passing game this year.

I think you are going to be very surprised.

One of the best OLs in the NFL and arguably the best wr/te core in the NFL..and a running game to boot. If the passing game isn't amazing, I'll be disappointed.

Jakemall · 06-04-2014, 10:53 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...tract-details/

Colin Kaepernick deal, trumpeted as being worth “up to” $126 million with $61 million guaranteed contains plenty of fluff, a league source with knowledge of the deal sent the details to PFT.

And there’s plenty of fluff.

Technically, the deal has $61 million guaranteed. But only $13.073 million is guaranteed at signing. It comes in the form of a $12.328 million signing bonus, a base salary of $645,000, and a workout bonus of $100,000.

For 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and part of 2018, the base salaries are guaranteed only for injury. On April 1 of each year, the guarantees convert from injury only to fully guaranteed. That gives the 49ers the ability to decide, in any given year, to move on from Kaepernick. And with the deadline for the conversion of the guarantee coming on April 1, the 49ers can squat on his rights until several weeks after the start of free agency, making it harder for him to get paid elsewhere.

The base salary for 2015 is $12.4 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2015.

For 2016, the base salary is $13.9 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2016.

For 2017, the base salary is $16.5 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2017.

For 2018, the base salary is $17 million, $5.2 million of which is guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2018.

The non-guaranteed base salary for 2019 is $18.8 million, and the non-guaranteed base salary for 2020 is $21 million.

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DTLB58 DT CARD COLLECTOR Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ManCave Casino cash: $10005837	By Andrew Brandt of SI and MMQB. Five thoughts on the Kaepernick extension. 1) I think the length of Kaepernick’s rookie contract was a key factor. While the NFL took a sledgehammer to the previous rookie compensation system in the new collective bargaining agreement, Kaepernick was one of the few golden ticket winners. Although the second-round earnings on his rookie deal ($5.1 million over four years) paled in comparison to first round riches, he was not saddled with a team option for a fifth year like first-rounders are—for example, the Panthers’ Cam Newton. That would have given the Niners two more years of contract control, and the lack of such leverage worked to Kaepernick’s benefit. 2) I think the 49ers could have played a heavy hand due to Kaepernick’s highly undervalued existing contract. While all the comparable quarterbacks who received extensions over the past year—Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Matt Ryan and Jay Cutler—would have earned double-digit millions the next year absent an extension, Kaepernick would have made approximately $1 million in 2014. With an always-present injury risk, the team could have used his undersized 2014 salary as a hammer here. Based on the reported results, however, they did not. 3) I think Kaepernick showed some admirable loyalty to his agent. It was no secret around the NFL that many of the most powerful agents were circling, anxious to corral one of the top players in the game. With the barbarians at the gate, Kaepernick remained loyal to the agent who helped get him to where he is, Scott Smith of XAM Sports. Too many players leave agents for bigger agents or agencies when their careers advance to another level. 4) I think that, based on their structuring of other veteran contracts, the 49ers are tying significant earnings in the contract to per-game roster bonuses. This feature, which I used in Green Bay and is used by several clubs, allows the player to collect money every week as long as he suits up, while protecting the team if he does not. Using these clauses with Kaepernick, their most important player, would pave the way for their use in upcoming extension talks for players such as Michael Crabtree, Mike Iupati and Aldon Smith. 5) I think that the reports of $110 million or $126 million are just meaningless numbers. As readers of this space know, NFL contracts are not like NBA and MLB contracts, where reported values are real. Even the guarantee is, well, not really all guaranteed. My sense is the reported $61 million guarantee—vaulting Kaepernick to the top of the list in NFL guaranteed money—will be “stair-stepped,” with annual triggers activating different amounts of guaranteed money at different stages of the contract (thus not a “true” guarantee). Whatever the structure, the Kaepernick deal is striking. With the prospect of making a relatively miniscule amount this season and an uncertain future, he has cashed in to achieve long-term financial security. Somewhere Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson are smiling. __________________ 667 Different DT cards and counting
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Jakemall Veteran Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Los Angeles Casino cash: $10010313	http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...tract-details/ Colin Kaepernick deal, trumpeted as being worth “up to” $126 million with $61 million guaranteed contains plenty of fluff, a league source with knowledge of the deal sent the details to PFT. And there’s plenty of fluff. Technically, the deal has $61 million guaranteed. But only $13.073 million is guaranteed at signing. It comes in the form of a $12.328 million signing bonus, a base salary of $645,000, and a workout bonus of $100,000. For 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and part of 2018, the base salaries are guaranteed only for injury. On April 1 of each year, the guarantees convert from injury only to fully guaranteed. That gives the 49ers the ability to decide, in any given year, to move on from Kaepernick. And with the deadline for the conversion of the guarantee coming on April 1, the 49ers can squat on his rights until several weeks after the start of free agency, making it harder for him to get paid elsewhere. The base salary for 2015 is $12.4 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2015. For 2016, the base salary is $13.9 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2016. For 2017, the base salary is $16.5 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2017. For 2018, the base salary is $17 million, $5.2 million of which is guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2018. The non-guaranteed base salary for 2019 is $18.8 million, and the non-guaranteed base salary for 2020 is $21 million.
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