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Old 03-26-2014, 01:02 PM  
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:18 AM   #181
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That's what you're comparing it to.
And so are you.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:18 AM   #182
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They get free medical care while on scholarship. What about when it is taken away because of the injury?
Oh, crap...Now they should get lifetime free medical care?
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:19 AM   #183
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Then why don't they eschew football and pursue their academic aims if that is their desire?
Because they might lose their scholarship and free education everyone says is so valuable if they focus too much on academics?
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:20 AM   #184
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Because they might lose their scholarship and free education everyone says is so valuable if they focus too much on academics?
Obviously you cannot read with comprehension.


Then why don't they eschew football and pursue their academic aims if that is their desire?
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:22 AM   #185
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Oh, crap...Now they should get lifetime free medical care?
So let me get this straight. If a football player gets injured at the end of the season with a torn acl, which requires 18 months of recovery, you are okay with that player being saddled with the medical bills after his athletic scholarship is taken away/not renewed?
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:25 AM   #186
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You imply they do not receive fair compensation for their efforts.

Free tuition, free meals, free lodging in dorms, or a stipend allowing them to live off campus, free medical care...Benefits that must total far in excess of what many, many people earn.

You sir, are a liberal idiot.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:26 AM   #187
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Obviously you cannot read with comprehension.


Then why don't they eschew football and pursue their academic aims if that is their desire?
This is even more ridiculous then. Now they should pass up a free education all together that is oh so valuable, because they can't do what they want to do on the athletic scholarship.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:27 AM   #188
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You imply they do not receive fair compensation for their efforts.

Free tuition, free meals, free lodging in dorms, or a stipend allowing them to live off campus, free medical care...Benefits that must total far in excess of what many, many people earn.

You sir, are a liberal idiot.
Nice tap out.

None of those things you said are guaranteed beyond each year. And earning those benefits is entirely dependent on athletics. Ergo, "student" is clearly not more important than "athlete."
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:28 AM   #189
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Your argument is complete bullshit. You basically stated that the majority of college sports fans are priveledged white people who don't want to see the poor black athlete make money so that these white people can continue to look down on these athletes and feel some sort of superiority to them.

You also said the majority of black college athletes would be in prison or dead if they didn't have the ability to play ball. I knew many black athletes when I went to college and I guarantee you that many of them are smarter than you and had aspirations outside of sports.

Your argument about how most college basketball fans don't like the NBA and that this is because the NBA looks thuggish with all the tatted up players and also that they are getting paid millions of dollars is rubbish. Personally, I don't like the NBA because they don't play basketball the way I like to see it played. Too much of 4 players standing around while one player goes one on one against a defender. I never think about what a certain player is making or concern myself with how many tattoos they have or if they have dreadlocks or not.

Please feel free to continue on with your blatant stupidity though. It has been mildly entertaining.
The black athletes you knew? Would they even have made it to school with out their ability to play ball? Would they have made it on academic scholarship, or did their parents have the money to pay?

You also said "Your argument is complete bullshit. You basically stated that the majority of college sports fans are priveledged white people who don't want to see the poor black athlete make money so that these white people can continue to look down on these athletes and feel some sort of superiority to them."

I didn't exactly say that you did, and this idea seems to bother everyone the most. I will admit though you don't see alot of minorities at college sporting events. What has been you experience, or did you even notice. Maybe not as I am sure you are above such things.
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Old 03-27-2014, 11:51 AM   #190
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The black athletes you knew? Would they even have made it to school with out their ability to play ball? Would they have made it on academic scholarship, or did their parents have the money to pay?

You also said "Your argument is complete bullshit. You basically stated that the majority of college sports fans are priveledged white people who don't want to see the poor black athlete make money so that these white people can continue to look down on these athletes and feel some sort of superiority to them."

I didn't exactly say that you did, and this idea seems to bother everyone the most. I will admit though you don't see alot of minorities at college sporting events. What has been you experience, or did you even notice. Maybe not as I am sure you are above such things.


Yep, not many minorities show up for college sporting events.
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Old 03-27-2014, 01:14 PM   #191
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I ask you, do you or do you not recognize or know that there are a shit ton of people who love them some KU basketball, but can give two shits about the NBA? Mario Chalmers, an all time great at KU has two championships wtih the Miami Heat, where are all the die hard Heat fans from KU?
I ask you, do you not recognize or know that there are a shit ton of people who think kids go to college to get educated. So baggy pants or millionaires, some of the rub here isn't who like basketball or the NBA (or British tennis), it's all about opening Pandora's box.

I happen to agree with the opening, but not for all the same reasons as many think, I'm just thinking in a billion dollar industry (which is the only way I think "fans" come into it - they enable the billion dollar industry), then perhaps the major players in that scheme might should be considered for some more benefit than having their classes covered. But I also know it opens up all those other questions, you know, while the box is open...
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Old 03-27-2014, 01:25 PM   #192
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So let me get this straight. If a football player gets injured at the end of the season with a torn acl, which requires 18 months of recovery, you are okay with that player being saddled with the medical bills after his athletic scholarship is taken away/not renewed?
So you're basically saying you have no idea what you are talking about, because that doesn't happen. If you get a major injury, your school is still paid for but football is over with. Now if you get a boo boo and claim you can no longer perform, that's another story, but a torn ACL or such? No - athletes are covered.
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Old 03-27-2014, 01:52 PM   #193
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Old 03-27-2014, 02:13 PM   #194
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So you're basically saying you have no idea what you are talking about, because that doesn't happen. If you get a major injury, your school is still paid for but football is over with. Now if you get a boo boo and claim you can no longer perform, that's another story, but a torn ACL or such? No - athletes are covered.
You are incorrect. Both on tuition and on medical expenses.

"People are surprised [the University of Louisville] could have opted to leave him with medical expenses and leave him off the team," said Huma. "The fact that they have that option is outrageous."

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/kevin-w...ry?id=18889697

One example of tuition not being covered:

"His family has been stuck with tuition bills since his scholarship was not renewed. And with those bills unpaid, he also can’t get his academic transcripts from Oklahoma to transfer to another school."

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/09/fo...cial-disaster/
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