Zach Wilson Possibly Lost Starting Job?

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Eureka

Rosen was drafted by a Cardinals organization that hadn't done much and then was traded the next year after a coaching/GM change.

Zach Wilson came to a team that was drafting 2nd overall for a reason as they hadn't done much for a decade and certainly didn't help their previous 3rd overall QB much who was drafted a few years before.

Mahomes on the other hand came to an organization that had been to the playoffs consecutive years, has a hall of fame coach, and he got to sit behind a very decent seasoned vet for a year. The Chiefs traded up in the draft to get him as they were a good team. Many Chiefs fans tend to ignore this and just think Mahomes was great the day he was drafted. Not to knock him it's just that he came to a perfect situation and to his credit he rocked it. Would he have done the same being drafted by the Cardinals or Jets in their situations?

No of course he wouldn't have broken records from day one, no. But I promise you he would have done better than those guys because of WHO HE IS.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

No of course he wouldn't have broken records from day one, no. But I promise you he would have done better than those guys because of WHO HE IS.

Agree on this.

You could put Mahomes in even an Adam Gase offense where WRs don't break open and he would see that then just buy time until someone did.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Eureka

Rosen was drafted by a Cardinals organization that hadn't done much and then was traded the next year after a coaching/GM change.

Zach Wilson came to a team that was drafting 2nd overall for a reason as they hadn't done much for a decade and certainly didn't help their previous 3rd overall QB much who was drafted a few years before.

Mahomes on the other hand came to an organization that had been to the playoffs consecutive years, has a hall of fame coach, and he got to sit behind a very decent seasoned vet for a year. The Chiefs traded up in the draft to get him as they were a good team. Many Chiefs fans tend to ignore this and just think Mahomes was great the day he was drafted. Not to knock him it's just that he came to a perfect situation and to his credit he rocked it. Would he have done the same being drafted by the Cardinals or Jets in their situations?

Steve Keim has been the Cards’ GM since 2013.

Dude should have been fired after the DUI and the Rosen pick.

[Megatron96]

Maybe Zach should've played better and kept his dumb mouth shut. Or just played better. like up to NFL average maybe, instead of shitting his pants.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Maybe Zach should've played better and kept his dumb mouth shut. Or just played better. like up to NFL average maybe, instead of shitting his pants.

Zack had his team at 6-4 when he was replaced, Russell Wilson had the Donks at 3-7. Interesting. But Zach's suck had his team with better records than these teams:

New England
Cleveland
Pittsburgh
Indy
Jacksonville
Houston
LAC
Las Vegas

I'll let you figure our how many QBs he must be better than based on the average.

Again, I have no problem with the NYJs getting rid of him, like Eli not wanting to play for San Diego, perhaps it's a win-win for all parties.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Zack had his team at 6-4 when he was replaced, Russell Wilson had the Donks at 3-7. Interesting. But Zach's suck had his team with better records than these teams:

New England
Cleveland
Pittsburgh
Indy
Jacksonville
Houston
LAC
Las Vegas

I'll let you figure our how many QBs he must be better than based on the average.

Again, I have no problem with the NYJs getting rid of him, like Eli not wanting to play for San Diego, perhaps it's a win-win for all parties.

I wasn't aware that NYJ had let Wilson go? thought they were sitting him until he grew up or whatever.

As for Wilson, as I understand it, he was winning when he had that RB, Hall, iirc. When he went down, Wilson's play took a dive, yes? Now at first, I thought, "well, most rookie QBs need some semblance of a running game, so that figures." Then this White kid went out there and threw for over 300 yds and 3 TDs? And didn't Wilson throw for something like 100 yds in the last game he started?

I freely admit I know shit about either of these guys for the most part, but it seems pretty clear that White can make their offense work, with or without Hall. Maybe he doesn't have the big arm, but he looked accurate enough and smart enough to me last week.

And you don't really need a big arm to be extremely successful in the NFL. You do need to be accurate enough and smart enough to win consistently, but a big arm isn't a prerequisite.

My short take on the situation is keep and play the guy that understands how to play QB at the NFL level. ditch the guy that can't, regardless of how dazzling his arm might be if it's connected to a ten-cent head.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I wasn't aware that NYJ had let Wilson go? thought they were sitting him until he grew up or whatever.

As for Wilson, as I understand it, he was winning when he had that RB, Hall, iirc. When he went down, Wilson's play took a dive, yes? Now at first, I thought, "well, most rookie QBs need some semblance of a running game, so that figures." Then this White kid went out there and threw for over 300 yds and 3 TDs? And didn't Wilson throw for something like 100 yds in the last game he started?

I freely admit I know shit about either of these guys for the most part, but it seems pretty clear that White can make their offense work, with or without Hall. Maybe he doesn't have the big arm, but he looked accurate enough and smart enough to me last week.

And you don't really need a big arm to be extremely successful in the NFL. You do need to be accurate enough and smart enough to win consistently, but a big arm isn't a prerequisite.

My short take on the situation is keep and play the guy that understands how to play QB at the NFL level. ditch the guy that can't, regardless of how dazzling his arm might be if it's connected to a ten-cent head.

Mike White played last year and was awful.


Entering the draft the comp that stuck with me was Brock Osweiler.

Osweiler got 72 million, maybe White can pull something similar.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Mike White played last year and was awful.


Entering the draft the comp that stuck with me was Brock Osweiler.

Osweiler got 72 million, maybe White can pull something similar.

Fortunately for White it's not last year, I guess? He sure wasn't awful the other day . . .

[scho63]

Will be interesting who they go after in off season. I wonder if it will be Rodgers?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by scho63

Will be interesting who they go after in off season. I wonder if it will be Rodgers?

Rodgers is going to SF.

[Nickhead]

Yeah. It’s over for zachie. The teams sporting mike white T shirts

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

Yeah. It’s over for zachie. The teams sporting mike white T shirts

I can’t remember a team in one voice saying FU to their own QB like this before. (Or, former QB I guess.)

Cryin’ Leaf never had his teammates wearing t-shirts supporting his replacement

[Chris Meck]

Zach Wilson=Josh Rosen.

Get used to it. Plenty of talent, jack-ass entitled asshole.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Zach Wilson=Josh Rosen.

Get used to it. Plenty of talent, jack-ass entitled asshole.

I just flipped over to the game. Holy shit the Jets have dudes running wide all over the place.

I've only watched a couple minutes of offense, but how the hell did Zach Wilson suck?

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I just flipped over to the game. Holy shit the Jets have dudes running wide all over the place.

I've only watched a couple minutes of offense, but how the hell did Zach Wilson suck?

White made the throw to win the game, dude just dropped it.