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Old 09-03-2008, 01:23 PM   Topic Starter
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Old 09-03-2008, 01:25 PM   #2
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He come all the Herm defenders crying about Willie Roaf Retiring...
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Old 09-03-2008, 01:30 PM   #3
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He come all the Herm defenders crying about Willie Roaf Retiring...


Funniest part is, I'm not even a herm defender, but come on...

Without Roaf, you have the '01 chiefs. Without Roaf and Shields, you have the '06-'07 Chiefs. It doesn't take einstein to figure that much out. Football's a game won and lost in the trenches, always has been always will be.

Herm's problem is that he had two years to fix that line and he didn't, not until this offseason. If the offense is any better in '08, along with Gailey instead of Solari, it'll be because Albert's a decent player and they found a right tackle not named McIntosh.

The idea that this is somehow what Herm wants? I just don't see it.
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Old 09-03-2008, 01:34 PM   #4
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Funniest part is, I'm not even a herm defender, but come on...

Without Roaf, you have the '01 chiefs. Without Roaf and Shields, you have the '06-'07 Chiefs. It doesn't take einstein to figure that much out. Football's a game won and lost in the trenches, always has been always will be.

Herm's problem is that he had two years to fix that line and he didn't, not until this offseason. If the offense is any better in '08, along with Gailey instead of Solari, it'll be because Albert's a decent player and they found a right tackle not named McIntosh.
Yes without Roaf and Shields the line sucked, and your right the problem has been on going since Herm has been a head coach. His OL's have sucked and he cant seem to build a solid line.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:38 PM   #5
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Funniest part is, I'm not even a herm defender, but come on...

Without Roaf, you have the '01 chiefs. Without Roaf and Shields, you have the '06-'07 Chiefs. It doesn't take einstein to figure that much out. Football's a game won and lost in the trenches, always has been always will be.

Herm's problem is that he had two years to fix that line and he didn't, not until this offseason. If the offense is any better in '08, along with Gailey instead of Solari, it'll be because Albert's a decent player and they found a right tackle not named McIntosh.

The idea that this is somehow what Herm wants? I just don't see it.
Stop trying to explain logic to that moron.

He hates Herm. Herm is responsible for all that's evil in the world. The guy thinks that when an all-world LT retires, it's no big deal.

As I said in another post, he's hands down the dumbest prick on this message board.

Mike Nolan is hands down the worst NFL head coacn and it's not even a contest.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:40 PM   #6
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Stop trying to explain logic to that moron.

He hates Herm. Herm is responsible for all that's evil in the world. The guy thinks that when an all-world LT retires, it's no big deal.

As I said in another post, he's hands down the dumbest prick on this message board.

Mike Nolan is hands down the worst NFL head coacn and it's not even a contest.
Eh, it is debateable in terms of who's the worst coach, but I can agree to the fact that Nolan is ONE of the worst 5 NFL coaches.
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:37 PM   #7
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He come all the Herm defenders crying about Willie Roaf Retiring...
I have been making the same point as this article for 3 years. You are right, the offense would have stayed #1 if Willie Roaf had not retired. Herm should carry no blame.
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I have been making the same point as this article for 3 years. You are right, the offense would have stayed #1 if Willie Roaf had not retired. Herm should carry no blame.
Herman ****ing Edwards deserves some blame.

Hiring Mike Solari (whether or not he was forced on him is a debate for another day), then handcuffing him, hiring Dick Curl, running LJ into teh ground, etc.

However, laying all the blame at Herman ****ing Edwards feet ignores the fact that Dick Vermeil and Carl sucked ass in the draft, failing not only to fix the defense, but spending so many picks on that defense, and allowing the O-Line to grow old without any viable replacements.

The offense, under Dick, did what it did because it had one of the greatest O-Lines, ever.
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Old 09-03-2008, 06:06 PM   #9
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I have been making the same point as this article for 3 years. You are right, the offense would have stayed #1 if Willie Roaf had not retired. Herm should carry no blame.
Nice Try big ED...

But the fact remains that Herm cannot and will not have a productive Offense...

Give him the Chiefs of 2005 and he would of destroyed that recorded setting offense in less than a full season...

If Herm has no blame, then why hasnt he fixed the OL yet. IF he is so ****ing great at judging talent....
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Herm would be a great college coach. All his rah-rah bulls**t would probably be really effective in recruiting talented young guys. And he is a good motivator. But he's not cut out to be an NFL HC. I'm surprised there's still supporters out there....
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Old 09-03-2008, 06:25 PM   #11
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Herm would be a great college coach. All his rah-rah bulls**t would probably be really effective in recruiting talented young guys. And he is a good motivator. But he's not cut out to be an NFL HC. I'm surprised there's still supporters out there....
Nah. Again, the big problem with Herm is that his football philosophy is severely out-dated. He runs the ball to open the passing game. That doesn't work anymore. You have to pass in order to open the running game.

He'd get slaughtered, just like Greg Robinson for Syracuse is right now.
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Yep, herm's responsible for the fall of the offense, it has nothing to do with the retirements of Roaf and Shields and the concussion/departure of Trent Green. All hail jesus Saunders.
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Yep, herm's responsible for the fall of the offense, it has nothing to do with the retirements of Roaf and Shields and the concussion/departure of Trent Green. All hail jesus Saunders.

Damn that didnt take long...
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Yep, herm's responsible for the fall of the offense, it has nothing to do with the retirements of Roaf and Shields and the concussion/departure of Trent Green. All hail jesus Saunders.
Good coaches recover quickly from that misfortune. I'm embarrassed to display my Chiefs garb......
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