NFL likely banning hip-drop tackle

[oaklandhater]

The NFL competition committee has proposed a new rule that would penalize a player with a 15-yard penalty and grant the opposition an automatic first down for using the hip-drop tackle to bring a runner to the ground.

This is the definition of a hip-drop tackle:
(a) grabs the… pic.twitter.com/yL7peCR8gS

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) March 20, 2024

YAC gods will go crazy

[dlphg9]

Dude most of those looked completely fine. This shit is beyond ridiculous.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Here’s the video the NFL just showed in a press conference of what are now banned swivel hip-drop tackles (with NFL executive Jeff Miller speaking in the background). pic.twitter.com/Y4H8h6pQkW

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 25, 2024

Here's the video they showed of what is now considered an illegal tackle.

What a got damned ****ing joke! I'm done with this shit after Mahomes hangs it up anyway

[Hammock Parties]

anything that keeps mahomes and kelce safer is fine with me

[PHOG]

So, when's the merger happen? NFL + AFFL.

https://www.affl.com/

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Here’s the video the NFL just showed in a press conference of what are now banned swivel hip-drop tackles (with NFL executive Jeff Miller speaking in the background). pic.twitter.com/Y4H8h6pQkW

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 25, 2024

Here's the video they showed of what is now considered an illegal tackle.

Imagine being a DB and watching that video.

So you're telling me when I launch my little body at Mr. Henry's waist and he trucks me so hard I end up flying around his body while clinging to his ass cheeks for dear life and landing on his legs, I get a 15 yard penalty?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Imagine being a DB and watching that video.

So you're telling me when I launch my little body at Mr. Henry's waist and he trucks me so hard I end up flying around his body while clinging to his ass cheeks for dear life and landing on his legs, I get a 15 yard penalty?

But also imagine being an offensive player and seeing that. I think the video shows that there’s a threat of being over enforced for unintentional hip drop tackles but you also can’t deny that these offensive players bodies are moving very awkwardly. If it does in fact reduce injury it is very worth doing.

So early on you make a bunch of mistakes enforcing the rule but over time defenses will figure out how to tackle differently and refs will find the happy medium.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

But also imagine being an offensive player and seeing that. I think the video shows that there’s a threat of being over enforced for unintentional hip drop tackles but you also can’t deny that these offensive players bodies are moving very awkwardly. If it does in fact reduce injury it is very worth doing.

So early on you make a bunch of mistakes enforcing the rule but over time defenses will figure out how to tackle differently and refs will find the happy medium.

You can't hit high you can't hit low...where the hell are you supposed to hit?

[Megatron96]

Some of those tackles . . . well, I ask you, just what are those defenders supposed to do? The ball-carrier is getting past them; are they just supposed to let the guy run by them because they might end up 'drop-tackling' them?


Personally, I'm not a fan of the drop tackle. but we live in an age where everyone on a football field knows the risks and is required to be able to protect themselves, except defensive players.

Defensive players must also protect offensive players, that are doing their level best to make tackling them as hard as possible (for what should be obvious reasons).


Man, I miss the days when nearly (punters/kickers excepted) all players were responsible for their own safety. The double standard, with increasing bias against the defense, is going to eventually kill this game.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Some of those tackles . . . well, I ask you, just what are those defenders supposed to do? The ball-carrier is getting past them; are they just supposed to let the guy run by them because they might end up 'drop-tackling' them?


Personally, I'm not a fan of the drop tackle. but we live in an age where everyone on a football field knows the risks and is required to be able to protect themselves, except defensive players. Defensive players must also protect offensive players, that are doing their level best to make tackling them as hard as possible (for what should be obvious reasons).


Man, I miss the days when nearly (punters/kickers excepted) all players were responsible for their own safety. The double standard, with increasing bias against the defense, is going to eventually kill this game.

It looks overenforced. Need to get with the players union and carve out way more specific guidelines. Hopefully they’re starting broad but will hone down as they realize it’s impossible to overcome. It’s what tends to happen anytime they overemphasize specific rules especially brand new ones

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

What a got damned ****ing joke! I'm done with this shit after Mahomes hangs it up anyway

We're gonna get ****ed several times with this call (as will most other teams)

I mean, how do you even enforce something like that looking at those examples?

Yet another 'subjective' call we're going to willingly put in the hands of borderline incompetent officials to call whenever they 'feel' like calling it.

And, of course, it won't be reviewable.


Yea. Another way to piss off fanbases and make game deciding calls on complete B.S. This will end well for the NFL and the fans.

[Megatron96]

It looks over enforced because it is over enforced. The NFL obviously wanted more offense/scoring so they began creating all these penalties against the defense, and now, well, here we are.

This isn't some fleeting thing; it's getting worse. And it's significantly effecting how the game is played. We've got QBs being coached to fake slide, then try to take off, putting defenders in an impossible bind, so they hesitate. In a game where hesitation is a sin. JFC, in the last few years we've had how many flags for 'tackling too hard'? People complain about poor tackling and overall defensive play, but conveniently omit the fact that defenses are being asked to not only do their jobs at an NFL level, but also do more to protect offensive players than they do for themselves.

It's freaking stupid.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

It looks over enforced because it is over enforced. The NFL obviously wanted more offense/scoring so they began creating all these penalties against the defense, and now, well, here we are.

This isn't some fleeting thing; it's getting worse. And it's significantly effecting how the game is played. We've got QBs being coached to fake slide, then try to take off, putting defenders in an impossible bind, so they hesitate. In a game where hesitation is a sin. JFC, in the last few years we've had how many flags for 'tackling too hard'? People complain about poor tackling and overall defensive play, but conveniently omit the fact that defenses are being asked to not only do their jobs at an NFL level, but also do more to protect offensive players than they do for themselves.

It's freaking stupid.

By January… 13 teams were starting a backup qb. That is a way bigger problem than poor tackling. In fact I’d argue that even with all the rules in place last season was one of the best defense seasons we’ve seen in many years. You don’t like 15 yard flags but I also don’t like seeing guys, especially offensive players and most especially WRs, getting knocked out of games left and right because defenses are hit sticking receivers.

The best thing the nfl can do is to keep great players on the field to the best of their ability. And this is a very big problem for the nfl right now. Soft tackling is WAY better to watch than Blaine gabbert playing for a month or longer.

[Womble]

It's only going to get worse unless the fans come together to tell their owners to vote in the interest of the game of football rather than their own self interest.

All it takes to get a rule change is for a few nerds to deliver a PowerPoint with some graphs that show X play causes injuries every year. Then the owners natural response is "Injuries? Hell I don't like injuries. We had too many of them last year. Let's change the rule damnit!".

[CoMoChief]

NFL gonna be a glorified flag league within 20yrs lol.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Womble

It's only going to get worse unless the fans come together to tell their owners to vote in the interest of the game of football rather than their own self interest.

All it takes to get a rule change is for a few nerds to deliver a PowerPoint with a few graphs that show X play causes injuries every year. Then the owners natural response is "Injuries? Hell I don't like injuries. We had too many of them last year. Let's change the rule damnit!".

I seriously cannot comprehend how routinely losing superstars is in the best interest of the game. Backups in critical positions like qb make for completely unwatchable football.