There must be some kind of way outta here

Silock · 03-29-2007, 08:07 AM

Said the joker to the thief...

C-Mac · 03-29-2007, 08:10 AM

Theres[way] too much confusion.

Redrum_69 · 03-29-2007, 08:11 AM

I cant get no relief

C-Mac · 03-29-2007, 08:12 AM

Plow men dig my earth.

Redrum_69 · 03-29-2007, 08:16 AM

YOu killed the song already

Redrum_69 · 03-29-2007, 08:17 AM

There must be some kind of way out of here
Said the joker to the theif
There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief
Business men they drink my wine
Plowmen dig my earth
None will level on the wine
Nobody of it is worth

No reason to get excited
The thief he kindly spoke
There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke
But you and I we've been through that
And this is not our fate
So let us talk falsely now
The hour's getting late

All along the watchtower
The princess kept the view
While all the women came
And went bare feet servants too
Outside in the cold distance
A wild cat did growl
Two riders were aproaching
And the wind began to howl

Redrum_69 · 03-29-2007, 08:18 AM

So whats this song about?

Is he trying to explain his addictions?

orange · 03-29-2007, 08:20 AM

We need a FAX post here with his avatar.

ROYC75 · 03-29-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrum_69

So whats this song about?

Is he trying to explain his addictions?

I'm not convinced anybody really knows but Jimmy. The story has it that this song did relate to his drug addition. But keep in mind that back in the 60 & 70, many lyrics made no sense, only that they rhyme or made the song what it is.

keg in kc · 03-29-2007, 08:55 AM

I read an interesting theory on it on the web the other day. I'll see if I can dig it up again.

keg in kc · 03-29-2007, 08:57 AM

http://www.reasontorock.com/tracks/watchtower.html

Quote:

Dylan's accomplishment here is nothing less than amazing. In the space of a few verses, in a song so spare it could almost be missed as a throw-away, Dylan manages to accomplish all of the following.

- Summarizes his own life to date. Given his earlier efforts to make pointed fun of almost everything around him, and his near-fatal motorcycle crash that marked a turning point in his career, it is hard not to see the joker as Dylan himself. He has now learned that life is not a joke, and distinguishes between artists and outsiders who understand the seriousness of life, versus the businessmen and fans who treat his art as simply a marketable commodity.

- Identifies the primary issue of our time as one of values. Modern thinkers such as Ken Wilber, with his image of our contemporary “flatland,” in which everything is seen as neutral, and devoid of value, are brought to mind. In earlier songs Dylan talked tirelessly of modern figures misunderstanding the significance of issues such as war, freedom and poverty. Here Dylan stands back from these specific issues and reduces the confrontation to its essential element: human values against the established order.

- Propels his theme with a powerful dramatic structure. From a traditional dramatic viewpoint, almost nothing happens in this song: two riders talk to each other while approaching a castle. We've hardly got a decent first act, let alone a whole play. Yet by repeatedly hinting at the intensity of a coming confrontation, and by identifying the two opposing forces, Dylan keeps us on the edges of our seats, wondering what will happen next. The effect at the end is comparable to the conclusion of William Butler Yeats' famous poem, “The Second Coming”: “And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?” In both cases, there is a perceptible chill creeping up the spine, as the poet leaves his reader to contemplate the inevitability and intensity of the coming confrontation, and its consequences.

Brock · 03-29-2007, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I'm not convinced anybody really knows but Jimmy. The story has it that this song did relate to his drug addition. But keep in mind that back in the 60 & 70, many lyrics made no sense, only that they rhyme or made the song what it is.

"Jimmy" didn't write it.

Silock · 03-29-2007, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I'm not convinced anybody really knows but Jimmy. The story has it that this song did relate to his drug addition. But keep in mind that back in the 60 & 70, many lyrics made no sense, only that they rhyme or made the song what it is.

Interesting, except Hendrix didn't write it. Bob Dylan did

keg in kc · 03-29-2007, 08:59 AM

Jimmy, rofl

ROYC75 · 03-29-2007, 09:13 AM

Damn, it's going to be a bad day again ?

Guess that's what I get for thinking instead of knowing. Open mouth, insert foot.......

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Redrum_69 Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: your nightmares Casino cash: $10004900	There must be some kind of way out of here Said the joker to the theif There's too much confusion I can't get no relief Business men they drink my wine Plowmen dig my earth None will level on the wine Nobody of it is worth No reason to get excited The thief he kindly spoke There are many here among us Who feel that life is but a joke But you and I we've been through that And this is not our fate So let us talk falsely now The hour's getting late All along the watchtower The princess kept the view While all the women came And went bare feet servants too Outside in the cold distance A wild cat did growl Two riders were aproaching And the wind began to howl
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