***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mecca]

The national numbers are down because of NY, that doesn't change that Arizona, Oregon, Alabama etc are showing increased numbers.

Just throwing a national number doesn't tell the story.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Mecca

But we aren't flattening anything, the only thing that has changed is New York city isn't getting trounced.

Thats why the 7 day rolling average of Covid deaths is on a steady decline I suppose. Because we haven't flattened anything.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The national numbers are down because of NY, that doesn't change that Arizona, Oregon, Alabama etc are showing increased numbers.

Just throwing a national number doesn't tell the story.

Down 60%.

Keep entrenched though.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The national numbers are down because of NY, that doesn't change that Arizona, Oregon, Alabama etc are showing increased numbers.

Just throwing a national number doesn't tell the story.

They want to believe it, so it is. They'll either ignore the data or challenge its veracity.

[NewChief]

My area of Arkansas is skyrocketing. Latinx and Marshallese community are the hardest hit by far, but I'm hearing of quite a few people in our social circles who also have it. Hospitalizations are up, with the designated COVID wards being filled in some of them.

Definitely a little worrisome. We have a LOT of dumbass college kids running around like nothing is out of the ordinary, though.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Donger

They want to believe it, so it is. They'll either ignore the data or challenge its veracity.

Or you and Mecca and others will ignore that daily deaths are steadily dropping.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Down 60%.

Keep entrenched though.

Look I know why you have the view you do, you live in bumble**** mc****stain missouri where there are like 200 people in your county. I live where 200 people live in a 5 mile radius.

I don't think those areas should be looked at the same either yet here we are.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Just throwing a national number doesn't tell the story.

Unless the worst of it is happening in NY. In that case, close the entire country.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Donger

Correlation and not causation? It's clear that increased testing will lead to more cases, but not all. Then, we have the hospitalization data.

Sorry, it just seems weird to me that people think ending the mitigation efforts won't lead to more cases.

Are you really still missing the point? Tens of thousands of people gathering for days on end in tight unsanitary conditions screaming and shouting all across the country makes it impossible to accurately determine the affects of reopening. So much so that it’s basically pointless to talk about how much reopening is contributing to an increase in cases.

If I hypothesize that Hiroshima would see x amount of deaths from a ground invasion, but then the bomb is dropped unexpectedly, my prediction and discussion of how many are dead with regards to my prediction is useless at that point. That’s basically what happened. Worst case scenario for a virus spreading occurred and still is occurring. Coronavirus bombs are dropping everywhere which were clearly not part of the reopening plans and discussion when thinking about the affects of reopening.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by loochy

Unless the worst of it is happening in NY. In that case, close the entire country.

Which I don't really agree with that either, if you live in a major city compared to a tiny county things shouldn't be treated the same, yet here we are with the argument.

[O.city]

Deaths are the lagging factor, so deaths would slowly follow infections.

Not ideal.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Or you and Mecca and others will ignore that daily deaths are steadily dropping.

I'm not ignoring it at all. It's great news. I hope it continues.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Are you really still missing the point? Tens of thousands of people gathering for days on end in tight unsanitary conditions screaming and shouting all across the country makes it impossible to accurately determine the affects of reopening. So much so that it’s basically pointless to talk about how much reopening is contributing to an increase in cases.

If I hypothesize that Hiroshima would see x amount of deaths from a ground invasion, but then the bomb is dropped unexpectedly, my prediction and discussion of how many are dead with regards to my prediction is useless at that point. That’s basically what happened. Worst case scenario for a virus spreading occurred and still is occurring. Coronavirus bombs are dropping everywhere which were clearly not part of the reopening plans and discussion when thinking about the affects of reopening.

Oh, you were/are talking about the protests.

Yes, that will lead to more cases as well and just normal re-opening.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Which I don't really agree with that either, if you live in a major city compared to a tiny county things shouldn't be treated the same, yet here we are with the argument.

Absolutely. If they would have taken that strategy from the start I think people would be much more compliant. But they already blew their wad by closing things up where it wasn't necessary and now people will be too stubborn to go back to it.

[KS Smitty]

Riley Co. Public Health Officials say there are five new cases of COVID-19 in the county since Friday, June 12, bringing the county total up to 79 positive cases.

The Co. Health Office says that there are three deaths related to the virus, 17 active cases and 59 recoveries.

Riley Co. says four of the new patients are male, ages 21, 22, 28 and 61 while the last patient is a 19-year-old female.

The County says at least two of the cases are related with travel outside the county and that contact tracing is still ongoing for the rest of the patients.

The three deaths mentioned are from the Leonardville (home of Jordy Nelson) Nursing Home. These are the first nursing home outbreaks we've seen.

I live in Pott. County and was notified that one of our city cops has tested positive for Covid-19 from a county deputy who also tested positive. They are working on contact tracing now.

Yeah glad this is over.