***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[MahomesMagic]

Hunger Pandemic Will Surpass COVID Impact, Warns World Food Programme

The World Food Programme, the world’s largest humanitarian organization dealing with hunger and food security, accepted the Nobel Peace Prize today, with its executive director David Beasley warning that the combination of conflict, climate crisis and COVID-19 could push 270 million people to the brink of starvation. In his acceptance speech, Beasley said, “Because of so many wars, climate change, the widespread use of hunger as a political and military weapon, and a global health pandemic that makes all of that exponentially worse, 270 million people are marching toward starvation. Failure to address their needs will cause a hunger pandemic which will dwarf the impact of COVID.”
https://truthout.org/video/hunger-pa...ood-programme/

The lockdown bills are about to be due...

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Hunger Pandemic Will Surpass COVID Impact, Warns World Food Programme

The World Food Programme, the world’s largest humanitarian organization dealing with hunger and food security, accepted the Nobel Peace Prize today, with its executive director David Beasley warning that the combination of conflict, climate crisis and COVID-19 could push 270 million people to the brink of starvation. In his acceptance speech, Beasley said, “Because of so many wars, climate change, the widespread use of hunger as a political and military weapon, and a global health pandemic that makes all of that exponentially worse, 270 million people are marching toward starvation. Failure to address their needs will cause a hunger pandemic which will dwarf the impact of COVID.”
https://truthout.org/video/hunger-pa...ood-programme/

The lockdown bills are about to be due...

He’s not just talking about covid or lockdowns as the sole reasons for the issue, is there a reason you didn't bold climate change and wars/conflict?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Hunger Pandemic Will Surpass COVID Impact, Warns World Food Programme

The World Food Programme, the world’s largest humanitarian organization dealing with hunger and food security, accepted the Nobel Peace Prize today, with its executive director David Beasley warning that the combination of conflict, climate crisis and COVID-19 could push 270 million people to the brink of starvation. In his acceptance speech, Beasley said, “Because of so many wars, climate change, the widespread use of hunger as a political and military weapon, and a global health pandemic that makes all of that exponentially worse, 270 million people are marching toward starvation. Failure to address their needs will cause a hunger pandemic which will dwarf the impact of COVID.”
https://truthout.org/video/hunger-pa...ood-programme/

The lockdown bills are about to be due...

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Obesity is a public health issue that can be minimized by very simple measures that people willingly choose not to adopt.

But I'll be damned if they aren't wearing a mask in between bites of their Big Mac and gulps from their 44oz. Coca-Cola.

Okay, so it looks like we're solving covid and obesity together. Humankind is an innovative lot.

[petegz28]

Gov. Cuomo shutting down indoor dining in NYC starting Monday. Said 74% of spread is from "living room spread" so hey, let's shut down indoor dining so more people gather at home.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Gov. Cuomo shutting down indoor dining in NYC starting Monday. Said 74% of spread is from "living room spread" so hey, let's shut down indoor dining so more people gather at home.

I saw that he claimed that 70% of new cases were caused by living room spread, which includes people from other families gathering together. Ascertained through contact tracing. That was over a week ago. I would imagine that something else has happened since then that triggered the indoor dining shutdown.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Gov. Cuomo shutting down indoor dining in NYC starting Monday. Said 74% of spread is from "living room spread" so hey, let's shut down indoor dining so more people gather at home.

If 1 person gets it at a restaurant and brings home to their family and infects 4-5 other people , the % of the spread will lean towards the home yes.

[Donger]

Here we go:

Indoor dining will be suspended in New York City beginning Monday, Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced Friday.

"The hospitalizations continue to increase in New York City," Cuomo said. "We said that we would watch it. If the hospitalization didn't stabilize, we would close indoor dining. It has not. We're going to close indoor dining on Monday."

Outdoor dining, takeout and delivery will be allowed to continue.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Actually, Covid is not contagious. Sars-COV2 is the virus and like other coronaviruses is primarily spread by contagious individuals. Your mask better stop aerosols or it's nothing but security theater.

Once you breathe in the virus whether more happens from there is dependent on YOUR immune system and health.

Thank you for this info. As someone that performs sterility inoculations in an ISO 5 certified laminar flow hood daily, I should let the Board of Pharmacy and the United States Pharmacopeia know that the mask I wear is just theatrical in stopping the aerosols, and that the air settling plates that we culture, that somehow never grow anything, are a useless form of detection thanks to the discoveries of MahomesMagic

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

If 1 person gets it at a restaurant and brings home to their family and infects 4-5 other people , the % of the spread will lean towards the home yes.

Except the contact tracing is not showing restaurants as a high risk. That being said using your logic or lack thereof, we need to shut down everything because if 1 person gets it from "insert place here" and brings it home it infects 4-5 people bla, bla, bla.

[Donger]

The data is clear.

“Living room spread” is a big reason why COVID is surging.

Some steps to lower the risk if you choose to be indoors with people not in your household:

-Limit the duration of the visit
-Wear masks
-Keep distance (even with masks on!)https://t.co/DNRZeoUXEj

— Andrew Cuomo (@NYGovCuomo) November 13, 2020

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Here we go:

Indoor dining will be suspended in New York City beginning Monday, Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced Friday.

"The hospitalizations continue to increase in New York City," Cuomo said. "We said that we would watch it. If the hospitalization didn't stabilize, we would close indoor dining. It has not. We're going to close indoor dining on Monday."

Outdoor dining, takeout and delivery will be allowed to continue.

Yeah how one leads to the other is unexplainable and he can't. He, just like in CA, just needs a target to look like he is doing something.


But whatever....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

The data is clear.

“Living room spread” is a big reason why COVID is surging.

Some steps to lower the risk if you choose to be indoors with people not in your household:

-Limit the duration of the visit
-Wear masks
-Keep distance (even with masks on!)https://t.co/DNRZeoUXEj

— Andrew Cuomo (@NYGovCuomo) November 13, 2020

Well since he closed indoor dining you think more people might be gathering in homes???

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah how one leads to the other is unexplainable and he can't. He, just like in CA, just needs a target to look like he is doing something.


But whatever....

Cuomo will cave when he gets sued. Can't wait. Salons and gyms now allowed to reopen because the lawsuit that was just filed.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well since he closed indoor dining you think more people might be gathering in homes???

What part of this don't you understand?

“Living room spread” is a big reason why COVID is surging.

Some steps to lower the risk if you choose to be indoors with people not in your household:

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Cuomo will cave when he gets sued. Can't wait. Salons and gyms now allowed to reopen because the lawsuit that was just filed.

Even L.A. County has had to admit that closing dining is more to limit mobility than anything to do with "science". But what they don't get it is the more places they close the more they encourage people to gather in homes.