How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by O.city

Jackson isn't a good route runner. He's a deep threat. Thats about it.

He runs a damn good deep route. Again, it depends on what your team needs. I like Jackson as a true threat WR. Reasonable minds can disagree but to say there isn't a discussion is homeriffic. Granted, this is a KC board and it is your right to be homers here.

[O.city]

I just don't see him as a true threat WR. He's a deep threat. Same with Mike Wallace.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by vailpass

He runs a damn good deep route. Again, it depends on what your team needs. I like Jackson as a true threat WR. Reasonable minds can disagree but to say there isn't a discussion is homeriffic. Granted, this is a KC board and it is your right to be homers here.

The only sanctioned homerism here is from Bronco fans, you know this.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by O.city

I just don't see him as a true threat WR. He's a deep threat. Same with Mike Wallace.

Fair response. I like Mike Wallace too.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by PGM

The only sanctioned homerism here is from Bronco fans, you know this.

Maybe on the Mane or in the KnowMo thread. I hope I've made it clear through the years that I recognize my status here as rival visitor and respect that this is a Chiefs board.

[O.city]

I like Wallace alot more, to be honest.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by vailpass

He runs a damn good deep route. Again, it depends on what your team needs. I like Jackson as a true threat WR. Reasonable minds can disagree but to say there isn't a discussion is homeriffic. Granted, this is a KC board and it is your right to be homers here.

a donkey fan talking about homerism.

[O.city]

Nah, Valipass is a Bronco, but he's a good dude.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by O.city

I like Wallace alot more, to be honest.

Oh yeah. More complete and tougher too IMHO.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by vailpass

You'd take Bowe over D. Jackson?

Would you take Jackson over Thomas?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by vailpass

He runs a damn good deep route.

Ehhhhh... it's good. It's not damn good or great.

Might just have to do with preferences, but I really don't see how you can look at a receiver like Bowe who makes the plays that he does with such garbage rapeshit for his QB and pass over him for a TRUE diva (wanna talk character problems in WRs FFS?) who doesn't really do anything more than streak past coverage and does a good job of putting his body in a position to make a good catch.

How many guys are there in the NFL just like DeSean Jackson? Mike Wallace, Torrey Smith, Percy Harvin, Delirium Tremens, to some extent Greg Jennings, Santonio Holmes, Pierre Garcon, Kenny Britt... they're ****ing everywhere.

How many guys are there in the NFL who do what Bowe does in terms of big bodies who have the ability to make the highlight reel catch? Teams draft these kinds of players all the time but rarely do they work as well as the guys who do what DeSean Jackson does. Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Anquan Boldin, I suppose one would put Justin Blackmon into this category if he works out... really aren't that many.

Then again you have the guys that certainly cross both types. Those kinds are even fewer. Larry Fitzgerald and (maybe) Julio Jones are the only ones I can think of at the moment still in the NFL who do that. At one point in the NFL there was no question that Randy Moss was the best in the business because he did it all so goddamn well, but now that's not really the case any more.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Dave

a donkey fan talking about homerism.

I got your homer right here Marge.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by O.city

Nah, Valipass is a Bronco, but he's a good dude.

Yeah, he's a realist too. Wasn't talking about him earlier.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by SNR

Ehhhhh... it's good. It's not damn good or great.

Might just have to do with preferences, but I really don't see how you can look at a receiver like Bowe who makes the plays that he does with such garbage rapeshit for his QB and pass over him for a TRUE diva (wanna talk character problems in WRs FFS?) who doesn't really do anything more than streak past coverage and does a good job of putting his body in a position to make a good catch.

How many guys are there in the NFL just like DeSean Jackson? Mike Wallace, Torrey Smith, Percy Harvin, Delirium Tremens, to some extent Greg Jennings, Santonio Holmes, Pierre Garcon, Kenny Britt... they're ****ing everywhere.

How many guys are there in the NFL who do what Bowe does in terms of big bodies who have the ability to make the highlight reel catch? Teams draft these kinds of players all the time but rarely do they work as well as the guys who do what DeSean Jackson does. Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Anquan Boldin, I suppose one would put Justin Blackmon into this category if he works out... really aren't that many.

Then again you have the guys that certainly cross both types. Those kinds are even fewer. Larry Fitzgerald and (maybe) Julio Jones are the only ones I can think of at the moment still in the NFL who do that. At one point in the NFL there was no question that Randy Moss was the best in the business because he did it all so goddamn well, but now that's not really the case any more.

Solid points, agreed on the different types of WR. The trick is to get a mix. the year we had B Marsh with Royal underneath and Cutler slinging to them was a good mix.
Oh, there's another thing. No matter who the WR is they aren't shit without the ball getting to them.