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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.


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Old 07-18-2012, 07:04 PM   #826
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How many yards would Bowe have on one of those teams, genious?

Take a guess, and we'll tell you if it's accurate.
Here's my problem with copy pasting stats into different situations. Do you think Bowe is going to match Fitzgeralds production when teams are trying to take away the Cardinals 1 offensive weapon?
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:04 PM   #827
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So, you think Bowe wouldn't put up similar numbers playing alongside Fitz?
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:06 PM   #828
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Here's my problem with copy pasting stats into different situations. Do you think Bowe is going to match Fitzgeralds production when teams are trying to take away the Cardinals 1 offensive weapon?
I don't know, man.

Do you think Bowe could put up 1200 yards and 15 TD if he was playing opposite Chris Chambers and a rookie tight end?

FYI: The Cardinals had a 1200 yard RB in 2007. And Boldin.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:06 PM   #829
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So, you think Bowe wouldn't put up similar numbers playing alongside Fitz?
Perhaps but again youre back to my point of an offense with no running game. The year the cards went to the show they were dead last in rushing. Thus my original point of when you have no running game, which we do have, you throw the ball more.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:06 PM   #830
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Here's my problem with copy pasting stats into different situations. Do you think Bowe is going to match Fitzgeralds production when teams are trying to take away the Cardinals 1 offensive weapon?
And who have been the weapons that Bowe has been surrounded by in his career?
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Fitz has NEVER been Arizona's lone offensive weapon.

He's played with Bryant Johnson, Edgerrin James, Anquan Boldin and Steve Breaston.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:08 PM   #832
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Fitz has NEVER been Arizona's lone offensive weapon.

He's played with Bryant Johnson, Edgerrin James, Anquan Boldin and Steve Breaston.
It just shows how little people know about the rest of the league.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:08 PM   #833
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I think Bolden and Bowe are fairly similar players (at equal points in their respective careers)

I'd also say that I don't think the gap between Bowe and Vincent Jackson is as big as the gap between Bowe and Fitz/CJ.

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Old 07-18-2012, 07:11 PM   #834
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Bowe is better than Vincent Jackson. The gap between them is in Bowe's favor.
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Fact is pioli is going to wait and see how baldwin develops. He and bowe look to be similar. If he comes on this year bowe will be gone and they will look to get a speedster.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:12 PM   #836
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I don't know, man.

Do you think Bowe could put up 1200 yards and 15 TD if he was playing opposite Chris Chambers and a rookie tight end?

FYI: The Cardinals had a 1200 yard RB in 2007. And Boldin.
Charles ran for 1400 yards and 6.4 ypc that year as well. Bowe was very good in 2010 but the Chiefs were run 1st with Charles blowing up record books.

Arizona throws and everyone knows that the offense runs through Fitzgerald. Last year he put up 1400 yard with 17.6 ypc. I just don't see Bowe doing that with being the center of attention.
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It just shows how little people know about the rest of the league.
I'm not even sure why that clown decided to start posting again.

It's ****ed up that he gives a bad name to the other jd posters here on the planet due to misidentification.
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I just don't see Bowe doing that with being the center of attention.
Bowe was the center of attention on every pass attempt in 2010.

And he beasted.
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I dont think bowe has the same skill at getting open that fitz does. Or bolden for that matter.
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I think Bolden and Bowe are fairly similar players (at equal points in their respective careers)

I'd also say that I don't think the gap between Bowe and Vincent Jackson is as big as the gap between Bowe and Fitz/CJ.

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You put Boldin in a similar situation to Bowe, #1 receiver on a run based team, but with a better QB, and I bet he doesn't break 900 yards receiving.











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