Andy’s 11 personnel package

[RunKC]

If you didn’t know, this was the package we used to score every TD last week. Andy used this package most of the game. For those unfamiliar, 11 personnel package is 3 receivers, 1 TE and 1 RB.

This is the best package for our offense IMO.

So I’m trying to figure out a good way to stop this from a defensive standpoint.



Andy dictates what the LB does by motioning the RB. Speaking of, this is the answer to why Andy brought DAT back and had Tremon on offense. This play is a basically a screen if Pat decides to use the RB. That’s why a return like those guys for that as depth. I would expect DAT and Darwin to get the nod tomorrow due to their speed.

How do you defend this? Goddamn

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Only way to defend is to cheap shot Mahomes and break his leg. Then you win the game and the Chiefs get a top 10 pick.

[RunKC]

All Pat has to do is watch the LB and S to dictate the play.



The RB motioning forced the defense to pull either that LB or S.

If the backer goes to the RB, the middle of the field is now open for Kelce. If the S pulls up then one of the receivers will be 1X1 deep (how Robinson scored). The lone receiver at the top (Sammy) is 1X1 if the other safety has to pull to cover the middle of the field vacated bc the LB is forced to go to the RB motion.

It’s a damn effective play and blitzing against this package isn’t exactly a good idea.

[KChiefs1]

Bill Belichick would know.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

I'm surprised teams don't blitz Mahomes more often - as in bringing the house. Trying to out-physical our offense might work. You might get screened to death, but giving Mahomes 3 or more seconds in the pocket with the Chiefs' weapons is suicide.

Like choosing between dying by a thousand paper cuts or getting your head lopped off by a samurai sword.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Bill Belichick would know.

Last year it took Pat until halftime to settle down and start shredding Bill’s defense. Most QBs if stumped by a defense don’t figure that shit out in-game.

That change is going to be quicker and quicker to happen when Pat gets a game like that.

I noticed all the “regression!” morons on tv and radio have gone silent. They realize what most of us see. You give defensive coaches an offseason to plan, then you’re also giving Pat an offseason to study and learn until you repeat the cycle enough times that Pat has literally seen everything. It’s Manning’s brain combined with Favre’s braun.

In other words, I’m not afraid of Bill. Pat isn’t either.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

I'm surprised teams don't blitz Mahomes more often - as in bringing the house. Trying to out-physical our offense might work. You might get screened to death, but giving Mahomes 3 or more seconds in the pocket with the Chiefs' weapons is suicide.

Like choosing between dying by a thousand paper cuts or getting your head lopped off by a samurai sword.

Mahomes a year ago was among the NFL's beat against the blitz as I recall. You can try it, but with the kind of speed we have, going zero blitz against us is just begging for disaster.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

There’s ways to defend it and get bodies on bodies so to speak, but even still, you have to be able match up decently in terms of physical ability. Very few teams can come close.

A team could call the perfect Zone on any given play to pick up each receiver, or a match Zone, and still yet if Mahomes makes a great decision or extends the play, it could all be for not.

The only way to ensure that each man is somewhat accounted for is man to man, and with that you have to deal with pick routes, not having eyes on the QB, and again... very few defenses can hold up in man vs. KC. Probably none can if Hill comes back with the rest of the crew.

It’s looking like one of the greatest offenses ever for a reason.

[HemiEd]

Great thread, thanks for posting.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Mahomes a year ago was among the NFL's beat against the blitz as I recall. You can try it, but with the kind of speed we have, going zero blitz against us is just begging for disaster.

If you believe the Chiefs will score on you anyway 80% of the time, maybe some coaches would prefer to take the chance of getting sacks, possibly getting some big hits on Mahomes to injure him, or possibly creating turnovers instead of just sitting back and letting him carve them up. The Steelers tried to sit back and he dropped 6 TD's on them without a breaking a sweat.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

There is no concrete right answer when it comes to defending Kansas City. If there was, it would have been exposed by now.

Belichick had a different plan for each game last year, and it worked only temporarily before the doors got blown off for 30+ point halves.

The talent and coaching combination is far too superior to be mitigated.

[Bump]

looks like trey open on madden

[Hoover]

What's this? An actual football thread?

Mods, does this need to be moved?

[rabblerouser]

11 personnel is our base package, and makes sense since it preachy puts the best at each position on the field...but I'd LOVE to see Jody Fortson on the field in 12 personnel at some point, and of course 21 personnel to get Sausage on the field more...

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Hoover

What's this? An actual football thread?

Mods, does this need to be moved?