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Old 04-12-2011, 12:55 PM   Topic Starter
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Sac's Final 2011 NFL Draft Wish List

1. Derek Sherrod, OT; Mississippi State: 6'5", 321 lbs.
- Big, athletic and intelligent. Experienced and played against top pass rushers/ends his entire career. Very intuitive and equally good in both the run and pass. Has all the intangibles and should play at a high level at either tackle spot.



2. Sam Acho, OLB/DE; Texas: 6'2", 259 lbs.
- An athletic and smart combo end who won nearly every leadership, academic and sportsmanship award there is in 2010 including the Campbell Trophy. Team captain. Had 9 sacks and led the nation with 5 fumble recoveries in 2010. Has very good change of direction as well as a good initial burst and size/strength to drive the point of attack. Has the potential to be a very effective 3-4 LOLB. This guy defines hard work, character and on-the-field production.




3. Jerrell Powe, NT; Ole Miss: 6'3", 335 lbs.
- Massive and strong, Powe was a Rebels team captain in 2010. Did not qualify academically his first two years of college because of an undiagnosed dyslexia situation, but he stuck with it and ended up playing all four years. A former high school Army All-American. Much better character and work ethic at the same size than a guy like Phil Taylor.




4. Vincent Brown, WR; San Diego State: 5'11", 187 lbs.
- With long arms and huge hands, Brown plays substantially bigger than his frame suggests. A classic possession type receiver that knows how to get open, make the hard catch and find the end zone. Had 1300+ yards and 10 touchdowns in 2010. Ran a 4.58 40 and posted a 36 inch vertical at his pro day.



5. Zane Taylor, C; Utah: 6'3", 313 lbs.
- First team all-conference as both player and academic. Team captain. Three year starter at center. Very strong (41 reps at 225 at his Pro Day), smart and experienced. Is very effective is standing up even the biggest nose tackles (watch his performance as a sophomore against Terrance Cody in the 2009 Fiesta Bowl - just annihilates the bigger Cody play after play). Excellent work ethic.



5. Ricky Stanzi, QB; Iowa: 6'4", 223 lbs.
- After several lackluster years, Stanzi had a very good senior season in 2010 setting a school single season record for passing efficiency. 25 TDs against 6 INTs in 2010 and went 26-9 as a starter. Excellent size and good leadership.



6. Darius Morris, OT; Temple: 6'4", 318 lbs.
- First team all-conference after starting all 12 games in 2010 at right tackle for the Owls (started 11 games at RT in 2009).



7. Robert Hughes, RB/FB; Notre Dame: 5'11", 240 lbs.
- Former High School All-American at running back, he has very good hands and elusiveness in the open field. Is also adapt at using his tree stump frame to smash through the line in short yardage situations. Really fits the Haley system in terms of a versatile fullback.

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Old 04-12-2011, 02:15 PM   #2
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You really should have done this on 4/1 and made the first-rounder something other than an OT.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:16 PM   #3
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I've always wondered why the hell you feel you have to post pictures of every ****er you want to draft?

The pictures don't make you look smarter.

You're still a dumbass.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:20 PM   #4
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I've always wondered why the hell you feel you have to post pictures of every ****er you want to draft?

The pictures don't make you look smarter.

You're still a dumbass.
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:03 PM   #5
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I'd be open to an OL choice in the first round. Sherrod would not be the one I would be looking for. Depends on who is available. But then, I'm not big on taking NTs in the first round (Raji's performance notwithstanding). That leaves WR and OLB. Not sure that I'm wowed by those available at #21. So, as I said, an OL could make sense. I don't have any strong feelings on our first pick that there is one "must have" player.

The rest are not bad. The pictures are fine with me Milkman, as it is better than looking at white space.
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Old 04-12-2011, 06:30 PM   #6
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Well, finally, after several years we're picking at a spot where sac's picks won't look totally reeruned.
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1st - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
2nd - Sam Acho, DE/OLB, Texas
3rd - Jerrell Powe, NT, Ole. Miss
4th - Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
5th - Austin Pettis, WR, Boise State
5th - Brandon Fusco, C, Slippery Rock
6th - T.J. Yates, QB, North Carolina
7th - Robert Hughes, RB, Notre Dame
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:29 AM   #9
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1st - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
2nd - Sam Acho, DE/OLB, Texas
3rd - Jerrell Powe, NT, Ole. Miss

4th - Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
5th - Austin Pettis, WR, Boise State
5th - Brandon Fusco, C, Slippery Rock
6th - T.J. Yates, QB, North Carolina
7th - Robert Hughes, RB, Notre Dame
It would be hard to argue about any of the bolded being picked in those slots. Especially if we go OL in the first.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:08 AM   #10
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1st - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
2nd - Sam Acho, DE/OLB, Texas
3rd - Jerrell Powe, NT, Ole. Miss
4th - Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
5th - Austin Pettis, WR, Boise State
5th - Brandon Fusco, C, Slippery Rock
6th - T.J. Yates, QB, North Carolina
7th - Robert Hughes, RB, Notre Dame
I like this one a lot better.
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:44 PM   #11
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1st - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
2nd - Sam Acho, DE/OLB, Texas
3rd - Jerrell Powe, NT, Ole. Miss
4th - Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
5th - Austin Pettis, WR, Boise State
5th - Brandon Fusco, C, Slippery Rock
6th - T.J. Yates, QB, North Carolina
7th - Robert Hughes, RB, Notre Dame
I'm not sold on Carimi as anything other than a RT at the next level. The guy is a major force in the run, but the games I've seen, he can be beaten around the edge by the better speed rushers. (Watch the Iowa/Wisconsin games - he absolutely abuses Clayborn on the running plays but there are a number of times where Clayborn simply blows by him on pass plays and gets into the backfield.) And while he's athletic for a guy his size, he's not the same type of athlete as Costanzo or Sherrod. At least to me, Sherrod presents the best of all possibilities in terms of plugging a guy into either spot and getting substantially better production than what we have in both the run and pass.

There is no way Pettis last until the fifth round. Hell, if he's there in the fourth, I'd rather have him over the guy I picked in Vincent Brown. (Other than AJ Green, I think Pettis is the best receiver in this draft.) I can't see him lasting beyond the third round, but given the choice between Jerrell Powe and Pettis, I had to go with Powe as you can find quality possession receivers in the draft in any round if you know what you are looking for.

Not a chance that I take a guy from Slippery Rock over Zane Taylor, who's called the line for two BCS bowl games, is a four year first team conference all-academic and a two time all-conference player including a first team all conference selection last year. I think Fusco is more a product of very good coaching than anything else, considering that five Slippery Rock centers have earned first team DII All-American honors since 1997. That's more than just a coincidence at that point.

If Taylor isn't available, I'd take Jake Kirkpatrick or Colin Baxter. Kirkpatrick should be very effective in a zone scheme like Haley runs. However, neither have Taylor's strength (41 reps at 225 at the Utah pro day) and leverage, which will help him be more productive from the get go.

Yates' college career could be defined as "lackluster." Going into his senior season, he was not even guaranteed the starting position even though he was the three year starter. His senior season was good, but nothing insane. More a product of being a four year starter than anything else. Doesn't have very good arm strength and was really supported by an All-Star level defense.

I think if the Chiefs are picking up a QB in the later rounds, they need to look for a guy who is solid starting material that has some potential beyond that. Stanzi, Tolzien of Wisconsin and McElroy of Alabama would be the guys that should be available around there that would fit that profile. Solid QB's that didn't put up huge numbers because of a reliance on a run based offense that do have solid prep pedigrees and did what was asked of them within the confines of their college programs. If they want to go with an athlete and try to groom them into a NFL level guy, Adam Weber of Minnesota or Tyrod Taylor of Virginia Tech wouldn't be a bad way to go. (Taylor might be the next Brad Smith, but Weber, with some good coaching, has a chance to be a real QB at the next level. He's shown he can light guys up through the air and has really good athleticism to boot.) Josh Portis might have been the next Cam Newton if he had one more year of eligibility, but he might be worth a look as well.

However, I think that Stanzi and Tolzien are the best of the "true" QB's that will be available at that point in the draft. Both had successful careers and a lot of wins in a solid conference and worked out of pro style sets. I guess it just depends on where you think they go with Cassel, what you think of Croyle as the #2 and if one of these guys has the chance to be that proverbial diamond in the rough like Hasselbeck or Brady.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:00 AM   #12
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I think if the Chiefs are picking up a QB in the later rounds, they need to look for a guy who is solid starting material that has some potential beyond that. Stanzi, Tolzien of Wisconsin and McElroy of Alabama would be the guys that should be available around there that would fit that profile. Solid QB's that didn't put up huge numbers because of a reliance on a run based offense that do have solid prep pedigrees and did what was asked of them within the confines of their college programs. If they want to go with an athlete and try to groom them into a NFL level guy, Adam Weber of Minnesota or Tyrod Taylor of Virginia Tech wouldn't be a bad way to go. (Taylor might be the next Brad Smith, but Weber, with some good coaching, has a chance to be a real QB at the next level. He's shown he can light guys up through the air and has really good athleticism to boot.) Josh Portis might have been the next Cam Newton if he had one more year of eligibility, but he might be worth a look as well.
Having seen a lot of McElroy and Josh Portis, I can safely predict that McElroy is not NFL staring material and Portis won't be an NFL QB at all.
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I think if the Chiefs are picking up a QB in the later rounds, they need to look for a guy who is solid starting material that has some potential beyond that. Stanzi, Tolzien of Wisconsin and McElroy of Alabama would be the guys that should be available around there that would fit that profile. Solid QB's that didn't put up huge numbers because of a reliance on a run based offense that do have solid prep pedigrees and did what was asked of them within the confines of their college programs. If they want to go with an athlete and try to groom them into a NFL level guy, Adam Weber of Minnesota or Tyrod Taylor of Virginia Tech wouldn't be a bad way to go. (Taylor might be the next Brad Smith, but Weber, with some good coaching, has a chance to be a real QB at the next level. He's shown he can light guys up through the air and has really good athleticism to boot.) Josh Portis might have been the next Cam Newton if he had one more year of eligibility, but he might be worth a look as well.
McElroy is trash and just because Portis is black and transferred from Florida doesn't mean he'd have been Cam Newton. He sucks and is a thug. Awful analysis.
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McElroy is trash and just because Portis is black and transferred from Florida doesn't mean he'd have been Cam Newton. He sucks and is a thug. Awful analysis.
Like Newton, Portis was a highly sought after prep quarterback that originally started at Florida, struggled with some cheating issues at school (Maryland), then transferred to a small college where he put up ridiculous numbers. His college situation damn near mirrors Cam other than getting back into D1 (which is why I said if he had another year of eligibility he might have done what Newton did in having success at the D1 level). I don't see how that's an "awful analysis."
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Like Newton, Portis was a highly sought after prep quarterback that originally started at Florida, struggled with some cheating issues at school (Maryland), then transferred to a small college where he put up ridiculous numbers. His college situation damn near mirrors Cam other than getting back into D1 (which is why I said if he had another year of eligibility he might have done what Newton did in having success at the D1 level). I don't see how that's an "awful analysis."
How many California (PA) games from last season have you watched? I've watched six. Portis is not an NFL QB.
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