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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***



And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 06-26-2016, 07:46 PM   #2356
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I just don't see us signing Hosmer unless he pulls a "KC is where I wanna be" thing. If he does do that and we at least pay him decent I think that bodes well for keeping Moose and most likely Cain as well.

I think Esky will be replaced with Mondesi If we do lock up Moose I think Cutty gets dealt. Otherwise you let Moose walk which could play into Hos not wanting to hang for less $.
There is just no way that Hosmer stays in KC. He's going to get massive offers, especially from a team like the Dodgers, that he won't be able to refuse.
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Old 06-26-2016, 07:48 PM   #2357
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There is just no way that Hosmer stays in KC. He's going to get massive offers, especially from a team like the Dodgers, that he won't be able to refuse.
Yes. And nor should he. He brought a WS. Go make that bread now. I'll be happy for him
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Old 06-26-2016, 07:52 PM   #2358
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Yes. And nor should he. He brought a WS. Go make that bread now. I'll be happy for him
Exactly. And this isn't going to be like Gordon's situation this offseason.

Teams with unlimited resources will get into a bidding war for Hosmer.

My only hope is that DM trades him for a bounty of picks if the Royals are out of it.
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Old 06-26-2016, 07:52 PM   #2359
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Cuthbert has really came on. Couple of years ago I thought he would be a just piece we could use in a trade to get somebody, granted he wasn't doing that good in the minors then. Now he looks like a part of our future.
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Old 06-26-2016, 07:53 PM   #2360
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I do too, but I think we would get more value by playing him rather than trading him.
At this point in time, absolutely. The earliest a CC trade thought would even cross DM's mind would be spring training 2017 when Moose is back and 100%.

In terms of 2017, we'll have a healthy Moose, paired with a promising Cuthbert and a nearly-major league ready Dozier. Bit of a long ways away, but the Royals will have a plethora of options from an organizational-standpoint at 3B and chips to trade for a solid starter come 2017-2018 if needed. Personally, I love watching Cuthbert emerge and it's awesome seeing KC win with homegrown players.
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Old 06-26-2016, 07:54 PM   #2361
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The only thing that gives me pause about Hos is Dayton's insistence that he wants to make him a lifelong Royal, he's NEVER been so bold about any other player, not even Gordon.

I still think he's gone. I always thought Gordo (and perhaps Sal) were a better fit for the lifelong Royal category anyway.
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Old 06-26-2016, 07:54 PM   #2362
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I think he's pretty valuable
I think a 23 year old 20HR 3rd baseman is valuable to a lot of teams. He really gives the Royals some options and needed flexibility. I cant remember the last time we had an all star blocking what looks like a future all star.
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Old 06-26-2016, 07:56 PM   #2363
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At this point in time, absolutely. The earliest a CC trade thought would even cross DM's mind would be spring training 2017 when Moose is back and 100%.

In terms of 2017, we'll have a healthy Moose, paired with a promising Cuthbert and a nearly-major league ready Dozier. Bit of a long ways away, but the Royals will have a plethora of options from an organizational-standpoint at 3B and chips to trade for a solid starter come 2017-2018 if needed.
If Cutty hits 20 dongs at 23, we would need a Wil Myers type of return before I would think about parting with him.

If we can add a legitimate #2 and a potential #3 for multiple years, then I'll be listening.

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Old 06-26-2016, 08:04 PM   #2364
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I think a 23 year old 20HR 3rd baseman is valuable to a lot of teams. He really gives the Royals some options and needed flexibility. I cant remember the last time we had an all star blocking what looks like a future all star.
They were ready to play him at 2nd before Moose was injured (ala Duncan).

Again, if we're trading Cutty, then I hope we can net a King's ransom in return.
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Old 06-26-2016, 08:10 PM   #2365
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The only thing that gives me pause about Hos is Dayton's insistence that he wants to make him a lifelong Royal, he's NEVER been so bold about any other player, not even Gordon.

I still think he's gone.
I just don't think the Royal can (or even should) go to $25 million per for Hosmer. He's a perfect fit for a team like the Dodgers, as he's a leader and a winner and they have basically unlimited pockets.

It sucks but it's reality.
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So about Orlando. Is everyone comfortable with continuing to roll with him in RF this year and beyond?
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Old 06-26-2016, 08:16 PM   #2367
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By "Wacha-type," I hope you mean someone better than Michael Wacha.

Wacha is OK, but he's really a two-pitch guy and has an injury history/bad shoulder. I don't think he'd more of a difference maker for the 2017 Royals than Moustakas.
I don't either, but we need to get a starter this winter. And I mean like badly, even if it's a slight overpay. This rotation resembles one from a 68-94 team, not a playoff contender.
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They were ready to play him at 2nd before Moose was injured (ala Duncan).

Again, if we're trading Cutty, then I hope we can net a King's ransom in return.
I thought they tried it and it wasnt pretty in the minors.
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Old 06-26-2016, 08:21 PM   #2369
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If Cutty hits 20 dongs at 23, we would need a Wil Myers type of return before I would think about parting with him.

If we can add a legitimate #2 and a potential #3 for multiple years, then I'll be listening.
I know it's not apples to apples, but he's got 14 already: 7 at AAA in about a month. Guy has damn good power for his age. He's one of the few guys that passes the eye test and the stats test. He's a very valuable commodity now - maybe our most valuable on the team when you factor service time
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So about Orlando. Is everyone comfortable with continuing to roll with him in RF this year and beyond?
This year for sure. Dozier and Bonafacio might be future options there as well.
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