***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[007]

Well covid got me. We'll see how this goes.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by 007

Well covid got me. We'll see how this goes.

Sorry to hear it!

I had a breakthrough infection in October, right at the 7-month mark from my first vaccine dose.

I came through with what felt like a bad sinus infection for 2 days (what led to me getting tested) but otherwise did fine. I was fortunate. No breathing problems. No fever.

If you have an oxygen sensor, keep an eye on your blood oxygen level (check it while resting sometime in the morning, before bed). What I was told was as long as you stay above 95%, you’re golden. If it dips below that AND you can feel yourself having trouble breathing, keep a closer eye on it and go see a doctor if it dips below 90%. Might be worth a call to your primary doc if you have one to see their direction for you.

^ above assumes you’re vaccinated. If you’re not, I’d check into getting monoclonal antibodies treatment.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Sorry to hear it!

I had a breakthrough infection in October, right at the 7-month mark from my first vaccine dose.

I came through with what felt like a bad sinus infection for 2 days (what led to me getting tested) but otherwise did fine. I was fortunate. No breathing problems. No fever.

If you have an oxygen sensor, keep an eye on your blood oxygen level (check it while resting sometime in the morning, before bed). What I was told was as long as you stay above 95%, you’re golden. If it dips below that AND you can feel yourself having trouble breathing, keep a closer eye on it and go see a doctor if it dips below 90%. Might be worth a call to your primary doc if you have one to see their direction for you.

^ above assumes you’re vaccinated. If you’re not, I’d check into getting monoclonal antibodies treatment.

I'd consider the monoclonal antibodies regardless if you're vaccinated or not.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

I'd consider the monoclonal antibodies regardless if you're vaccinated or not.

I assume you have to meet some sort of criteria to receive them or are they just giving it to who ever wants it.

It isn't an option up here right now not sure why maybe just supply .

[Monticore]

a little late to the party but hey

Canada's first homegrown COVID-19 vaccine shows high efficacy

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...EDJ?li=AAggNb9


different tech I guess too

If licensed in this country, the shot would be the first COVID-19 vaccine using virus-like particle technology and the first plant-based vaccine ever approved for human use, Brian Ward, medical officer for Medicago, said during a recent interview with CBC News.

"This would be a first for the world," he added, "not just for Quebec and Canada."

The shots use Medicago's plant-derived, virus-like particles — which resemble the coronavirus behind COVID-19 but don't contain its genetic material — and also contain an adjuvant from GSK to help boost the immune response.

[Chiefnj2]

Heard of an interesting case (Friend’s husband) where the husband was vaccinated (i don’t know if it was Moderna or Pfizer) 7 months ago. He has crohn’s and was considering a booster. He went to get an antibody test to see how his immunity was and they told him it was if he was never vaccinated at all.
I don’t know other details, but found it interesting.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Heard of an interesting case (Friend’s husband) where the husband was vaccinated (i don’t know if it was Moderna or Pfizer) 7 months ago. He has crohn’s and was considering a booster. He went to get an antibody test to see how his immunity was and they told him it was if he was never vaccinated at all.

I don’t know other details, but found it interesting.

I hadn't heard of that specifically, but I believe Chron's is an autoimmune disease. Those do all sorts of weird stuff to your immune system. (And it's why they approved boosters for people who are immunocompromised way earlier than everyone else.)

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I assume you have to meet some sort of criteria to receive them or are they just giving it to who ever wants it.

It isn't an option up here right now not sure why maybe just supply .

If you're living and breathing you pretty much qualify for the antibody treatment around here

[bdj23]

I had it in October, it was literally indistinguishable from the common cold for me.

My wife had it a few days later with similar symptoms + taste loss.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Heard of an interesting case (Friend’s husband) where the husband was vaccinated (i don’t know if it was Moderna or Pfizer) 7 months ago. He has crohn’s and was considering a booster. He went to get an antibody test to see how his immunity was and they told him it was if he was never vaccinated at all.
I don’t know other details, but found it interesting.

antibodies wane over time and can very from person to person and antibody test might not detect what isn't there anymore but you are still protected vs disease/illness from your t-cell .

[Monticore]

not sure how this would affect a cough or a sneeze in regards to reduced transmission need to brush up on my gum science, color me skeptical

Gum with a plant-grown protein reduces COVID-19 transmission by 95%

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/med...7cJ?li=AAggNb9

[TLO]

Good news on Omicron and vaccines: “The early indication is that you are going to be protected against serious illness with two doses of mRNA-containing vaccines. And the booster dose can increase antibodies,” Dr Paul Offit, FDA Advisory Cmte, to me this am.

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) December 6, 2021

[TLO]

Offit is one of the people I trust most on this topic. Highly encouraging.

[RocKhawks]

Just a quick update on my health. It is now day 10 since contracting Covid. It was a roller coaster, one minute i feel fine, the next i would have a fever of 102. It was up and down. Then i developed a horrible dry cough, and just couldn't stop coughing. This was about 3 days ago. I called urgent care and they said i should go to the hospital and they will put me on a ventilator for my cough, which they seemed to think is Covid Pneumonia. I was absolutely not going on a ventilator. I called my PCP, and he prescribed an inhaler and pills for my cough. As of today, i haven't had a fever for over 24 hours, and my cough is actually "productive", and not as violent. Things are looking up!

[Monticore]

another one late to the party

this COVID vaccine can be inhaled and its being made and tested in Canada

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...OyD?li=AAggNb9