Football Expectations and Alex Smith - Page 4

Steron · 03-25-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I expect a Cassel-esque performance of garbage QB play that will occasionally spike upwards to "pretty good" once Smith ends up on the hotseat.

Those spikes will save his job for about three years.

Eventually, Andy Reid will be sacked, we will have this conversation in four years about how it was damn time given his unwavering support for Smith.

He will then be replaced by somebody like John Harbaugh, who will immediately trade for the best backup in the NFL and sign him to a four year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4.

Four years later, Harbaugh will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition.

At that point, Peyton Manning should be flaming out of his first head coaching job. We'll probably hire him up. Mannig will immediately trade for the NFL's best backup QB that year and sign him to a 4-year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4.

Four years later, Manning will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition.

He will then be replaced by Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl who will immediately will trade for the NFL's best backup QB. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low in year 4.

Four years later, Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave our QB any real competition.

This.

**loochy** · 03-25-2013, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I expect a Cassel-esque performance of garbage QB play that will occasionally spike upwards to "pretty good" once Smith ends up on the hotseat.

Those spikes will save his job for about three years.

Eventually, Andy Reid will be sacked, we will have this conversation in four years about how it was damn time given his unwavering support for Smith.

He will then be replaced by somebody like John Harbaugh, who will immediately trade for the best backup in the NFL and sign him to a four year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4.

Four years later, Harbaugh will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition.

At that point, Peyton Manning should be flaming out of his first head coaching job. We'll probably hire him up. Mannig will immediately trade for the NFL's best backup QB that year and sign him to a 4-year extension. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low by year 4.

Four years later, Manning will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave the backup QB he traded for any competition.

He will then be replaced by Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl who will immediately will trade for the NFL's best backup QB. Season ticket sales will skyrocket in year 1 before hitting a new low in year 4.

Four years later, Dda;lkfj;alkdfalkdjf Wjepofrajf2jojafl will be axed and we'll all wonder why he never gave our QB any real competition.

**BossChief** · 03-23-2013, 04:02 PM

He is 29 and we basically gave up a first round pick for him and we are paying him 10 million dollars in 2013.

He needs to hit the ground running and play at a high level right away.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-23-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

He is 29 and we basically gave up a first round pick for him and we are paying him 10 million dollars in 2013.

He needs to hit the ground running and play at a high level right away.

Yep.

Trading for Alex Smith is a "win-now" move, so I expect them to win right out of the gate. And not just in the regular season - there better be some playoff wins mixed in there.

Now, that's what should happen, based on the move itself.

What I expect will happen?

Dink. Dunk. Play it safe or take a sack. Hope the running game and/or defense carries the load.

Pretty much exactly what we've seen the last 4 years, but with more accuracy in the short passing game.

Yawn.

Fat Elvis · 03-23-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

He is 29 and we basically gave up a first round pick for him and we are paying him 10 million dollars in 2013.

He needs to hit the ground running and play at a high level right away.

He not only needs to play at a high level right away, he needs to elevate the level of play of those around him as well.

splatbass · 03-23-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

He is 29 and we basically gave up a first round pick for him and we are paying him 10 million dollars in 2013.

He needs to hit the ground running and play at a high level right away.

No, we didn't "basically" give up a 1st round pick. We gave up a high 2nd round pick. If you have to exaggerate to make your point then your point is BS.

jd1020 · 03-23-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

No, we didn't "basically" give up a 1st round pick. We gave up a high 2nd round pick. If you have to exaggerate to make your point then your point is BS.

We gave up a high second round pick... a pick where you can still get 1st round talent.

splatbass · 03-23-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

We gave up a high second round pick... a pick where you can still get 1st round talent.

If they fall into the second round they are second round picks. You can try to make your point by exaggerating their position, but if you have to exaggerate (essentially lie) then your point is BS. Too many of you do this.

jd1020 · 03-23-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

If they fall into the second round they are second round picks. You can try to make your point by exaggerating their position, but if you have to exaggerate (essentially lie) then your point is BS. Too many of you do this.

No shit they are second round picks...

Second round picks with first round talent, but because there is only 32 1st round picks some will fall out of the 1st and be picked very early in the 2nd.

It's really not that complicated.

Mr. Laz · 03-23-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

No, we didn't "basically" give up a 1st round pick. We gave up a high 2nd round pick. If you have to exaggerate to make your point then your point is BS.

the 2nd pick of the 2nd round, where 1st round guys get selected who slipped through the cracks when someone reached.

so it might not be a 1st round pick but there is going to be 1st round talent there when the pick is made, which is all that really matters.

splatbass · 03-23-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

the 2nd pick of the 2nd round, where 1st round guys get selected who slipped through the cracks when someone reached.

so it might not be a 1st round pick but there is going to be 1st round talent there when the pick is made, which is all that really matters.

Or, as many think, there aren't even 32 fist round talents this year and the last few picks of the first are "essentially" second round picks. See, exaggeration works both ways. Either way, you are LYING to make your point. A second round pick is a second round pick and nothing else.

Mr. Laz · 03-23-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Or, as many think, there aren't even 32 fist round talents this year and the last few picks of the first are "essentially" second round picks. See, exaggeration works both ways. Either way, you are LYING to make your point. A second round pick is a second round pick and nothing else.

you are nitpicking

no, people don't think there are any top 8 picks this year. It's the elite talent that is missing.

It's a valuable pick and we flush that shit away by overpaying for Cassel's brother. Went got bent over in the trade and losing that pick hurts.

Nightfyre · 03-23-2013, 04:04 PM

Yay, we traded 2.34 and a second next year for a "known commodity," Otherwise known as a mediocre game manager of a QB.

Mr. Laz · 03-23-2013, 04:06 PM

I think if you reversed the situation, Cassel was in San Francisco with Harbaugh and Alex Smith was in KC with Haley, the outcomes would have been almost exactly reversed as well.

Cassel would of looked better only to be replaced and Smith would of been destroyed.

FringeNC · 03-23-2013, 04:09 PM

Some points:

--Andy Reid has always been able to get more out of QBs than other coaches, and that is why I wanted him to begin with.
--Andy Reid is not a play not-to-lose coach - we will throw a LOT.
--Andy Reid seems to REALLY have wanted Alex Smith.

Put all those together, it seems clear to me that Reid thinks has a plan for Alex Smith, and considers him a franchise quarterback. Alex Smith does not have an elite arm, but does have an elite brain (40 wonderlic). If I had to guess, I'd say Reid is tired of all the turnovers he got with Vick, and will run an offense like Gruden and Callahan did with Rich Gannon, and we will throw it a LOT more than you guys think. I'm not saying it's going to be successful, just arguing that we will not play not-to-lose crap.

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03-23-2013, 04:04 PM	#13
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $3528849	Yay, we traded 2.34 and a second next year for a "known commodity," Otherwise known as a mediocre game manager of a QB.
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03-23-2013, 04:06 PM	#14
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	I think if you reversed the situation, Cassel was in San Francisco with Harbaugh and Alex Smith was in KC with Haley, the outcomes would have been almost exactly reversed as well. Cassel would of looked better only to be replaced and Smith would of been destroyed. __________________ Last edited by Mr. Laz; 03-23-2013 at 04:12 PM..
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03-23-2013, 04:09 PM	#15
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1666014	Some points: --Andy Reid has always been able to get more out of QBs than other coaches, and that is why I wanted him to begin with. --Andy Reid is not a play not-to-lose coach - we will throw a LOT. --Andy Reid seems to REALLY have wanted Alex Smith. Put all those together, it seems clear to me that Reid thinks has a plan for Alex Smith, and considers him a franchise quarterback. Alex Smith does not have an elite arm, but does have an elite brain (40 wonderlic). If I had to guess, I'd say Reid is tired of all the turnovers he got with Vick, and will run an offense like Gruden and Callahan did with Rich Gannon, and we will throw it a LOT more than you guys think. I'm not saying it's going to be successful, just arguing that we will not play not-to-lose crap.
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