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Old 09-16-2018, 02:31 PM  
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**** BOB SUTTON

That's it.
You got major upgrades in the front seven. The corners were not the problem today. Guys running free underneath all ****ing day. NO PASS RUSH, rushing two and three guys and Steeler receivers STILL RUNNING FREE UNDERNEATH. Everytime we blitzed, we rushed the throw. Everytime we didn't, Roethlisberger had all ****ing day. No excuse to rush two and three against a HOF QB.

You got younger, and faster. It's not all on the players. It's the scheme. It leaves the defense on the field until they're gassed and give up the big play.

If the scheme is too complicated for your secondary to run, then CHANGE THE SCHEME.

You have an offense that can score at will. Play aggressive and make them match you big play for big play. blitz, pressure, force them to make a big play or a mistake. Sitting back in loose zones all day is NOT WORKING.

**** Sutton.
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:10 AM   #436
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Nope.

Not a recurring bottom feeder. This year is the first they've been in the lowest quarter of defensive percentages, and even then it's only in yardage.

In case you haven't noticed, the entire NFL is giving up huge chunks of yardage.
I guess 32nd out of 32 means little. Right? Dead last is the new middle of the pack...
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:10 AM   #437
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2014-2018 is "years", right?

Maybe you're trying to play the cool-minded fan act a little too much and letting that act get in the way of placing blame on all of the people who have earned it.

It's all good, if you're fine with Sutton I'm sure Andy will think you're right.
By the way, in 2014 and 2015 they were one of the best defenses in the league. So you're once again emoting instead of thinking.
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:11 AM   #438
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The NFL average is around 7.1 yards per pass and teams are throwing the ball damn near 50 times/gm against us. We're gonna give up yards, fellas. A shitload of them, in fact.

I do think that long term, yards allowed is a more reliably predictive measure than points allowed and that's of some concern. We won't continue to get 5 turnovers and that many sacks to suppress our points totals. But we'll probably continue to give up a lot of yards.

The hope is that, as has been the case thus far, those yards come when the game is decided. The defense has come up strong in big ways several times this year and there are signs that it's going to continue to improve. If the last 2 weeks are a baseline of what the defense can do, that's enough to win with.

That said - I'd probably sit Houston this week and just be prepared to take a whupin' on D. See if Mahomes can outscore Brady and get Houston healthy. The last thing we need is another Berry situation (or another Houston from '16 situation). Get him right and move forward. I'd rather not lose this game but winning in Foxboro is a tough ask either way and if we do, it won't be because of the D anyway.
I couldn't agree more.

I don't want to count this game as a loss in advance, though.

Actually, I'm looking forward to a true shootout (NE's defense ain't "all that") for once. Mahomes vs. Brady. Kelce vs. Gronk. Watkins vs. Edelman. Hill vs. Gordon. Hunt vs. Michel. Points vs. More Points.

That has the makings of a great game.

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Old 10-09-2018, 10:11 AM   #439
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I guess 32nd out of 32 means little. Right? Dead last is the new middle of the pack...
That's 5 games into a single year.

You said "recurring". You do know what the definition of "recurring" is, right?
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:20 AM   #440
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That's 5 games into a single year.

You said "recurring". You do know what the definition of "recurring" is, right?
OK, enjoy our defense... I'll keep getting nervous whenever "Sutton's kids" take to the turf... They'll get better, that's the only direction to they have right now.
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:22 AM   #441
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OK, enjoy our defense... I'll keep getting nervous whenever "Sutton's kids" take to the turf... They'll get better, that's the only direction to they have right now.
And when they do get better.....you'll still bitch.
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Old 10-09-2018, 10:23 AM   #442
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OK, enjoy our defense... I'll keep getting nervous whenever "Sutton's kids" take to the turf... They'll get better, that's the only direction to they have right now.
Again, you prove my point.

I don't "enjoy" this defense. At all.

I'm just not interested in finding a scapegoat in lieu of actually fixing the problem.
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And when they do get better.....you'll still bitch.
Because the defense getting better doesn't matter, firing Bob Sutton does. SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY!

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And when they do get better.....you'll still bitch.
Perhaps.
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I expect this thread will get alot of activity after next week since the Patriots love to cause mismatches on backers and we dont have 1 who can cover. That will be Suttons fault.
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I expect this thread will get alot of activity after next week since the Patriots love to cause mismatches on backers and we dont have 1 who can cover. That will be Suttons fault.
Brady will probably rip this defense a new one.

I'm expecting Mahomes to rip them two.

The Pats will have a bunch of new ones before he's done.

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I expect this thread will get alot of activity after next week since the Patriots love to cause mismatches on backers and we dont have 1 who can cover. That will be Suttons fault.
No, it'll be Veach's fault. You never blame a coach, they're victims of the GM.
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No, it'll be Veach's fault. You never blame a coach, they're victims of the GM.
I'm not a Veach fan but he gets 2 more years atleast.
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I'm not a Veach fan but he gets 2 more years atleast.
He doesn't play either. You can't blame him much either. He hired people to tackle, they're just opting out of that part of their job.
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