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Old 01-02-2018, 05:51 PM  
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Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

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Matheny fired 07/14/2018




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Old 08-28-2018, 05:16 PM   #3376
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Old 08-28-2018, 05:58 PM   #3377
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DJ, Hamas and the other baseball nerds, is this possible?

Listened to two Cardinal podcasts this afternoon. Basic premise is that Ozuna still has value. You trade him with your surplus position players and pitching to get a top offensive prospect. Possible?

Offer Harper $300-$350 million in day one of FA. Any chance of that happening than a couple of months ago?

Or are these podcasters talking out their ass?
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DJ, Hamas and the other baseball nerds, is this possible?

Listened to two Cardinal podcasts this afternoon. Basic premise is that Ozuna still has value. You trade him with your surplus position players and pitching to get a top offensive prospect. Possible?

Offer Harper $300-$350 million in day one of FA. Any chance of that happening than a couple of months ago?

Or are these podcasters talking out their ass?
Who are these surplus position players? What pitchers? I don’t see great value in Ozuna unless he comes back and finishes strong with more consistent power, then yes I think some American League teams may have some interest where if his arm starts to fall off again at least he could DH.

They can certainly put an attractive package together with the pitching they have. I’m not sure we will ever be able to pull off a Kent Bottenfield for Edmonds type trade again with all the analytics available, but there are still some stupid front office guys out there.
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Who are these surplus position players? What pitchers? I don’t see great value in Ozuna unless he comes back and finishes strong with more consistent power, then yes I think some American League teams may have some interest where if his arm starts to fall off again at least he could DH.

They can certainly put an attractive package together with the pitching they have. I’m not sure we will ever be able to pull off a Kent Bottenfield for Edmonds type trade again with all the analytics available, but there are still some stupid front office guys out there.
they didn’t say which pitcher. Just listed off our young pitchers.

Thought it was weird that two podcasts were promoting the same thing.

Every one of these podcasts also assume that Fowler is gone. If so, glad to see Dewitt write off $50 million. But, wtf is he supposed to do? He plays Fowler next year it’s only about the money and not winning.
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he needs to be throwing more off speed stuff. Hitters can time 100 mph fastballs these days.
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he needs to be throwing more off speed stuff. Hitters can time 100 mph fastballs these days.
Can't throw offspeed when you're always behind 2-0.

That's why it's so critical for him to throw first pitch strikes - it allows him to get to breaking ball counts. If he can't get ahead, he has to just hump heaters up there and they just look to serve them up the middle and oppo.
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