***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I think there was a way to make that happen.


I've laid it out multiple times here.


But **** pete, you are against wearing a mask still.


Shows that there are so many stupid people out there that no I don't think it's ever going away at this point

It's amazing. All one has to do is look at other countries who did lock down and didn't reopen until they saw the same declines that the task force recommended.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

What's stupid is thinking this was just going to all go away in a month or two because people wore a mask.

But you obviously you know better than everyone. And just so you know, many experts are now pushing the WHO to classify this as airborne.

It was never going to go away at any point. Something you have failed to come to grips with this entire time.

But I am not here to argue with you. Good day.

It wasn't about wearing a mask, that was never in the. plan to get rid of it

That was just to point out how ****ing stupid people are, you obviously included.

[Donger]

(CNN)Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, said Monday the status of the coronavirus pandemic in the US is "really not good" as new cases surge across the country.

"We are still knee-deep in the first wave of this. And I would say, this would not be considered a wave. It was a surge, or a resurgence of infections superimposed upon a baseline," Fauci said in Facebook Live interview with National Institutes of Health Director Dr. Francis Collins.

"The European Union as an entity, it went up and then came down to baseline," he continued. "Now they're having little blips, as you might expect, as they try to reopen. We went up, never came down to baseline, and now it's surging back up. So it's a serious situation that we have to address immediately."

His comments come as coronavirus cases continue to soar in the US -- with at least 32 states reporting higher rates of new cases this week compared to the last, according to Johns Hopkins University data. Nearly 3 million Americans have been infected with the virus and more than 129,000 have died.

Fauci on Monday pointed to "a series of circumstances associated with various states and cities trying to open up" too early as a key factor in the virus' surge and emphasized the US "should use the public health effort as a vehicle and a pathway to get to safe reopening."

"So we've got to make sure that we don't create this binary type thing of 'it's us against them,'" he said of public health efforts and the US economy.

"It's not. We're all in it together."

Fauci's assessment builds on the stark warning he issued to lawmakers on Capitol Hill last week, telling them he wouldn't be surprised if the US sees new cases of coronavirus rising to a level of 100,000 a day.

"We are now having 40-plus thousand new cases a day. I would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day if this does not turn around and so I am very concerned," Fauci told the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

He specifically expressed dismay over people congregating in crowds and not wearing masks and inadequate attention being paid to guidelines on reopening.

"We're going to continue to be in a lot of trouble," he said. "And there's going to be a lot of hurt if that does not stop."

[SAUTO]

And haven't we always known it was spread through the air by people talking and breathing?

There's nothing new there Pete...

[suzzer99]

Based on his posting, it's all new to Pete every day.

[stumppy]

Hope this helps pete.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

And haven't we always known it was spread through the air by people talking and breathing?

There's nothing new there Pete...

you think you're so smart. It is not classified as an airborne virus....yet. And FYI masks don't do much against airborne.



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[Ninerfan11]

204 deaths across the ENTIRE COUNTRY yesterday. We back bros. Get back to work and wait for the next media created circus.

As my guy Ric Flair said: "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Hope this helps pete.

Meanwhile the CDC is about to pull the epidemic status of Covid because the death count has dropped so much.

But you keep drawing pictures.

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[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

204 deaths across the ENTIRE COUNTRY yesterday. We back bros. Get back to work and wait for the next media created circus.

As my guy Ric Flair said: "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

There are obvious reasons it was so low yesterday but it's still a good thing. I literally just listened to a Doctor say the rise in cases is not cause for panic. Before everyone freaks out he was referring to the death count fortunately staying low. He did say we need to take the hospitalizations seriously but the death rate is ultimately where we need to focus.

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[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

There are obvious reasons it was so low yesterday but it's still a good thing. I literally just listened to a Doctor say the rise in cases is not cause for panic. Before everyone freaks out he was referring to the death count fortunately staying low. He did say we need to take the hospitalizations seriously but the death rate is ultimately where we need to focus.

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It's difficult to find accurate hospitalization data I've found. You can go from county website to county website and piece together information but that takes forever.

I read an article for my local area today that our hospital has the capacity for up to 300 covid patients. The article said there were 100n negative pressure rooms, but they could treat 300 people if needed. That bit was kind of confusing.

We are currently at 12. The highest we've been is 21.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Donger

(CNN)Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, said Monday the status of the coronavirus pandemic in the US is "really not good" as new cases surge across the country.

"We are still knee-deep in the first wave of this. And I would say, this would not be considered a wave. It was a surge, or a resurgence of infections superimposed upon a baseline," Fauci said in Facebook Live interview with National Institutes of Health Director Dr. Francis Collins.

"The European Union as an entity, it went up and then came down to baseline," he continued. "Now they're having little blips, as you might expect, as they try to reopen. We went up, never came down to baseline, and now it's surging back up. So it's a serious situation that we have to address immediately."

His comments come as coronavirus cases continue to soar in the US -- with at least 32 states reporting higher rates of new cases this week compared to the last, according to Johns Hopkins University data. Nearly 3 million Americans have been infected with the virus and more than 129,000 have died.

Fauci on Monday pointed to "a series of circumstances associated with various states and cities trying to open up" too early as a key factor in the virus' surge and emphasized the US "should use the public health effort as a vehicle and a pathway to get to safe reopening."

"So we've got to make sure that we don't create this binary type thing of 'it's us against them,'" he said of public health efforts and the US economy.

"It's not. We're all in it together."

Fauci's assessment builds on the stark warning he issued to lawmakers on Capitol Hill last week, telling them he wouldn't be surprised if the US sees new cases of coronavirus rising to a level of 100,000 a day.

"We are now having 40-plus thousand new cases a day. I would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day if this does not turn around and so I am very concerned," Fauci told the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

He specifically expressed dismay over people congregating in crowds and not wearing masks and inadequate attention being paid to guidelines on reopening.

"We're going to continue to be in a lot of trouble," he said. "And there's going to be a lot of hurt if that does not stop."

Meanwhile:

In Britain, the pubs reopened. In Japan and around Europe, children are going back to school. Professional sports have resumed, albeit without fans for now. Restaurants are open again. The pandemic is over for the most part in countries where they took it seriously from the jump.

Whether they are young people testing positive in the US or not, we're the only country that seems to be dealing with a second peak in the first wave. In other places the tide seems to have gone out.

[lewdog]

The nightly medical information presented by Dr. Olathe is just amazing.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

The nightly medical information presented by Dr. Olathe is just amazing.

You should be a little more grateful.......

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[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

It's difficult to find accurate hospitalization data I've found. You can go from county website to county website and piece together information but that takes forever.

I read an article for my local area today that our hospital has the capacity for up to 300 covid patients. The article said there were 100n negative pressure rooms, but they could treat 300 people if needed. That bit was kind of confusing.

We are currently at 12. The highest we've been is 21.

Looks like we will be higher than last Monday but I suspect some of that is backlog from Friday. Either way it's marginal.

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