*.* 2014 General Fitness Thread *.*

[penguinz]

Welcome to 2014! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

No one else started it so here it is!

**From the 2013 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I'm OCD about it so too damn many times Maybe 5 or 6 a day.

Chicken Breast
Ham
Cheddar Cheese (Sticks and slices)
Hamburgers with just cheese
Bacon
Eggs
Almonds
Carb Smart Ice Cream Bars
Various Atkins Bars (Be careful here)
Sugar Free Jello with Heavy Whipping Cream
Taco Salads without the shells, tomoatoes, etc...
Celery and Organic Peanut Butter
Pepperoni's
Bacon Jerky
Beef Jerky
Beef Sticks
Protein Shakes
Steaks
Green Beans
Dill Pickles
Drink Diet Mt Dew and Diet Dr. Pepper
Crystal Light

And you were keeping under 20 carbs a day?

[Hammock Parties]

Sugar free, fat free jello chocolate pudding is the bomb. In fact an entire massive bowl of that shit has only 140 calories.

Not really low carb, though.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

So what do the strength type WOD typically look like? Does it include some sort of programming like 'work up to 80% of 1rm for 3 sets of 5' or something along those lines?

Usually something like that. Sometimes they will work up to a 1rm or 3rm. Other times it will be sets of 3 or 5 reps at a % of your 1rm.

I remember doing bench press one day 10 sets of 2 reps. We worked our way up until we couldn't complete 2 reps on our own and then worked back down if necessary. It was was fun & different doing a heavy bench day in a group setting like that.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And you were keeping under 20 carbs a day?

Most likely no. I'd guess around 50 or so. Everyone is different when it comes to getting and staying into Ketosis.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins

Sugar free, fat free jello chocolate pudding is the bomb. In fact an entire massive bowl of that shit has only 140 calories.

Not really low carb, though.

Nope. Pudding didn't make the cut. The Jello with Heavy Whipping cream has saved me quite a few times. It takes care of the sweet tooth.

The Atkins bars are where the carbs come in, but some of those are sugar alchohal and I think that's something else where each person's body treats it differently. I just focus on the strips.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Omaha

2. I have no idea if those guys are juicing. Rich does look pretty huge. The other two don't really. I know that I'd be shocked to find out that the crossfitters that I know were juicing. They don't have bodies that I think are unachievable without it. I feel like a lot of people on here have the "If that duded is bigger than me he must be juicing" mentality.

Let's take their physiques out of the picture from the one posted and look at Crossfit as a sport. Although, those dudes physiques are ridiculous, steroids or not. And if you don't think that, you yourself must be ****ing huge!

The sport of Crossfit rewards monetary incentives for winners and it is not drug tested. I'll bet my life savings that most of the top competitors are juicing. It's just human nature. Hell, look at "tested" sports where guys are being tested and still "cheating" all the time. Until Crossfit gets a serious drug testing policy, you can bet your money many top competitors looking to get paid for working out are doing anabolic cycles. And I can't say I blame them or really care if they are juicing. But let's not pretend Crossfit is this holier than thou sport that is all friendship and fun. It's a competition and people do whatever they can get away with to win.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Most likely no. I'd guess around 50 or so. Everyone is different when it comes to getting and staying into Ketosis.

Well, you nearly inspired me to post a selfie on here, but my hilarious antics in the 'Would You?' thread and the impressive photoshop skills of some people on here have me thinking better of it.

Sorry, lewdog. You'll have to jerk off to something else for now.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Let's take their physiques out of the picture from the one posted and look at Crossfit as a sport. Although, those dudes physiques are ridiculous, steroids or not. And if you don't think that, you yourself must be ****ing huge!

The sport of Crossfit rewards monetary incentives for winners and it is not drug tested. I'll bet my life savings that most of the top competitors are juicing. It's just human nature. Hell, look at "tested" sports where guys are being tested and still "cheating" all the time. Until Crossfit gets a serious drug testing policy, you can bet your money many top competitors looking to get paid for working out are doing anabolic cycles. And I can't say I blame them or really care if they are juicing. But let's not pretend Crossfit is this holier than thou sport that is all friendship and fun. It's a competition and people do whatever they can get away with to win.

I don't disagree with your logic here at all. Are people claiming that everyone is clean and angelic? They may be. I make no such claim.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Omaha

Well, you nearly inspired me to post a selfie on here, but my hilarious antics in the 'Would You?' thread and the impressive photoshop skills of some people on here have me thinking better of it.

Sorry, lewdog. You'll have to jerk off to something else for now.

Ha. I'm more interested in Sac. He sounds like a genetic beast.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Ha. I'm more interested in Sac. He sounds like a genetic beast.

Sorry. I know what you meant, but this sentence is one of the best things I've ever read.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Omaha

I know that's the funny stereotype, but, from my perspective, that's backwards. I spent more time at my other gym than I did at crossfit most weeks and the crossfit people were very cool about it.

I find that my old school weight lifting friends have the superiority complex. They make fun of it like you guys do on here (not necessarily you) and really don't have a great handle on what we do.

Not going to deny that old school weight lifters can be some of the most superiority-laden.

I don't know of any elite crossfitters claiming they got there by only doing the WOD every day.

Froning doesn't come out and say that, but he words his responses carefully to avoid saying that he doesn't just do Crossfit. A cursory glance gives off the impression that's all he does when that's not true.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Nope. Pudding didn't make the cut. The Jello with Heavy Whipping cream has saved me quite a few times. It takes care of the sweet tooth.

The Atkins bars are where the carbs come in, but some of those are sugar alchohal and I think that's something else where each person's body treats it differently. I just focus on the strips.

Where do you pick up the strips at?

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Omaha

I don't disagree with your logic here at all. Are people claiming that everyone is clean and angelic? They may be. I make no such claim.

Well, there's an example right here in this thread. It started this whole conversation. Sac said that these guys were proof you can get big just doing Crossfit. Neglecting, of course, that they're on gear.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by Silock

Not going to deny that old school weight lifters can be some of the most superiority-laden.




Froning doesn't come out and say that, but he words his responses carefully to avoid saying that he doesn't just do Crossfit. A cursory glance gives off the impression that's all he does when that's not true.

Fair enough. Kyle Kasperbauer, who finished 2nd to Froning in 2012, works out at my gym & he clearly does more than the WOD every day. It's not a secret at all. The dude is a beast. I didn't even know that was a thing. I think most everyone does more than the WOD & it's not a secret.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Omaha

I don't disagree with your logic here at all. Are people claiming that everyone is clean and angelic? They may be. I make no such claim.

Yes, regular people see these top competitors all the time and think Crossfit is a magic solution. That was Sac's claim in this thread. Can it work, yes. Can it work to the level of the guys in that picture? Sure, with good genetics and gear. I could take the most gear in the world and still not look like that. Doesn't mean they don't work hard it's just clearly something that most people don't really think about when judging this sport. It is clearly a "dirty sport" if you'd like to call it that. Or one could argue that it's a fair sport because without a testing policy, you are free to do what you like so it isn't against the rules to juice.

I see no reason Crossfit would ever adopt a drug testing policy. They get momentum and people working out by seeing these top competitors. A rash of positive drug tests would really dampen the enthusiasm for working out and building physiques of the everyday joe, which is how these gyms stay open.