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Old 05-14-2019, 01:31 PM   #1
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I was in Tucson last week, and I really like that city. It's very scenic, and despite being a desert it's got lots of nice landscaping. It might be too hot, and I wonder how often I'd be chasing tarantulas and scorpions out of my shoes, but I'd consider it.

An uber driver there also told me that "Arizona wine country" was nice in places like Sonoita. Have you ever been there? I looked it up and it seems a bit small for my tastes, but it sounded nice.
I'm dating a woman from Sierra Vista and her family runs a ranch in Sonoita. Been there a few times. Not a place I could live, but it's beautiful up there. Especially when it snows.
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Old 05-14-2019, 01:35 PM   #2
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Still a couple of decades away and some of it will depend on if we have grandkids, etc. but I don’t see a scenario where we don’t live out the golden years back home(Hawaii).
Same. Once I save enough to retire comfortably I'm going back home to rot and watch 7am football until I die.
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Old 05-14-2019, 01:07 PM   #3
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I'd consider Southeast Asia. You can live like a king with relatively little money.
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Old 05-14-2019, 01:13 PM   #4
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I'd consider Southeast Asia. You can live like a king with relatively little money.
When my wife and I were in Cambodia last year, we had that thought. It was very nice, and the area we were in seemed to have enough western tourists that we didn't get constantly hassled by street vendors. Cambodia could be a bit hot in the summer, though, so it would have to be a place that had consistent power and air conditioning.

The street vendors are a make or break thing for me, by the way. I hate getting constantly sold to when I'm walking down the street. I had some idiot run up and grab me from behind in Hong Kong, trying to sell me a fake watch, and I don't respond well to being grabbed from behind.
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Old 05-14-2019, 04:12 PM   #5
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When my wife and I were in Cambodia last year, we had that thought. It was very nice, and the area we were in seemed to have enough western tourists that we didn't get constantly hassled by street vendors. Cambodia could be a bit hot in the summer, though, so it would have to be a place that had consistent power and air conditioning.

The street vendors are a make or break thing for me, by the way. I hate getting constantly sold to when I'm walking down the street. I had some idiot run up and grab me from behind in Hong Kong, trying to sell me a fake watch, and I don't respond well to being grabbed from behind.
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Old 05-14-2019, 01:14 PM   #6
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The wife and I have considered Colorado. We have elderly parents (in their 70's) with varying health so it isn't an option right now. We live in southern Virginia and I am to the point in my life that I hate Summer here. Too hot. Too humid.
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Old 05-14-2019, 01:55 PM   #7
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The wife and I have considered Colorado. We have elderly parents (in their 70's) with varying health so it isn't an option right now. We live in southern Virginia and I am to the point in my life that I hate Summer here. Too hot. Too humid.
I've looked all over Colorado as a hobby. Most of the nice places wouldn't allow me to free up cash from my house because their housing markets are expensive. But there are some exceptions.

Pueblo doesn't have a good reputation here. It's a low-growth remnant of the old economy. But it's got really good housing prices and it's big enough to have some good variety of restaurants and stuff. This place is really cool if you like older houses and urban living: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-07656?view=qv. This is more of a suburban setting, but the house is kind of cool: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-17293?view=qv

We also like Palisade in western Colorado as an affordable place. The architecture is pretty pedestrian, but the views are really nice. They have big mesas, and grow peaches and lavender there. I don't see any wow houses for sale in the town itself right now, but here's a place nearby: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-85027?view=qv
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:13 PM   #8
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I've looked all over Colorado as a hobby. Most of the nice places wouldn't allow me to free up cash from my house because their housing markets are expensive. But there are some exceptions.

Pueblo doesn't have a good reputation here. It's a low-growth remnant of the old economy. But it's got really good housing prices and it's big enough to have some good variety of restaurants and stuff. This place is really cool if you like older houses and urban living: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-07656?view=qv. This is more of a suburban setting, but the house is kind of cool: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-17293?view=qv

We also like Palisade in western Colorado as an affordable place. The architecture is pretty pedestrian, but the views are really nice. They have big mesas, and grow peaches and lavender there. I don't see any wow houses for sale in the town itself right now, but here's a place nearby: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-85027?view=qv
Nice houses for sure.
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Old 05-14-2019, 04:57 PM   #9
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I've looked all over Colorado as a hobby. Most of the nice places wouldn't allow me to free up cash from my house because their housing markets are expensive. But there are some exceptions.

Pueblo doesn't have a good reputation here. It's a low-growth remnant of the old economy. But it's got really good housing prices and it's big enough to have some good variety of restaurants and stuff. This place is really cool if you like older houses and urban living: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-07656?view=qv. Gotta love the bags of pellets in MBR Nice touch

This is more of a suburban setting, but the house is kind of cool: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-17293?view=qv

We also like Palisade in western Colorado as an affordable place. The architecture is pretty pedestrian, but the views are really nice. They have big mesas, and grow peaches and lavender there. I don't see any wow houses for sale in the town itself right now, but here's a place nearby: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-85027?view=qv
1st house needs a walk through, something says reproduction ceilings new not old trim or a podge. What's the deal with being for sale several times and price at 350K to 450K?? Back yard not completed since it looks like 2012. A Will Robinson home?
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:36 AM   #10
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I've looked all over Colorado as a hobby. Most of the nice places wouldn't allow me to free up cash from my house because their housing markets are expensive. But there are some exceptions.

Pueblo doesn't have a good reputation here. It's a low-growth remnant of the old economy. But it's got really good housing prices and it's big enough to have some good variety of restaurants and stuff. This place is really cool if you like older houses and urban living: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-07656?view=qv. This is more of a suburban setting, but the house is kind of cool: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-17293?view=qv

We also like Palisade in western Colorado as an affordable place. The architecture is pretty pedestrian, but the views are really nice. They have big mesas, and grow peaches and lavender there. I don't see any wow houses for sale in the town itself right now, but here's a place nearby: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...-85027?view=qv

I'm in love with the first house you listed. What I wouldn't give to own that. Maybe one day......
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:40 PM   #12
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I'm in love with the first house you listed. What I wouldn't give to own that. Maybe one day......
Yeah, I really like that house. It's got a lot of character, and compared to Denver prices it's really inexpensive. With the apartment over the garage to rent out, it's the rare place that might be worth moving to from a pure financial perspective if I was retiring today. (I'm still several years off, but I like to think ahead.)

When I think about moving in retirement, there are several elements to consider.

Pros of staying where I'm at in retirement:

1. I get good appreciation on my current home. I got lucky and bought in a high-demand place. Buying in a cheaper market will cost me money in terms of lower appreciation on the home.
2. I get cash out of my current home since I rent out an apartment.
3. My current home is in really good shape and there are no surprises for me in terms of maintenance.
4. I can walk to anything I need, which is good for a variety of reasons.
5. Until I need the cash for income, having a bunch of money in home equity is good diversification.
6. I really like Denver.

Pros of moving in retirement:

1. I could buy a house like this in a cheaper market and free up a ton of cash in retirement.
2. At some point in the distant future, having a house with lots of stairs may become a problem. Hopefully that's the distant future, but still...
3. It would be fun to explore a new place.

All in all, it would have to be a perfect fit to warrant moving, so I probably won't unless health forces me to do so. I pretty much have an ideal situation for the foreseeable future.
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:25 PM   #13
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I'd consider Southeast Asia. You can live like a king with relatively little money.
Pick a place where kidnapping Americans isn't the leading industry for the area.
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We spend a shit amount of time there with friends on West Lake. There is no way I could afford property there.
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