NFL Draft Okay, so WHAT exactly is so goddamn great about the 2018 QB class? - Page 18

**RealSNR** · 04-09-2017, 08:57 AM

I see a loooooot of question marks here. A bunch of guys who would be 3rd or 4th rounders in THIS draft class if they declared this year. A bunch of these dudes are so young they might not even declare for the draft. And finally, we got a bunch of spread QBs who.... [gasp!]... need time to acclimate to an NFL pro style offense and develop the footwork and timing of taking snaps under center.

I see Sam Darnold. That's great. There's your #1 overall. IF HE ****ING DECLARES, THAT IS. I see Josh Rosen, who looked good in 2015 but could wind up as another Christian Hackenburg who never puts it all together. And I see a bunch of dried cum with question marks, JUST LIKE THIS QB DRAFT CLASS.

Here's how Walter Football has them ranked:

1. Sam Darnold, USC
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Luke Falk, Washington State
4. Josh Allen, Wyoming
5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
6. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi State
7. Chase Litton, Marshall
8. Riley Ferguson, Memphis

COULD this be an awesome and deep draft class for QBs? Yes, absoutely. No question about it. But guess what. There's an equal chance that this QB class flames out and looks just as bad as the 2013 class, particularly if Sam Darnold doesn't declare.

People who bitch about the 2017 class don't ****ing get it. They think if there's no true top end QB, that means they all suck. What do the Chiefs ****ing care about the quality of the top guys in a given QB draft class? We're not going to be in a position to draft them!

Again, let me say this slowly, so the reeruns and assholes can hear me:

In ANY GIVEN DRAFT CLASS, the top QB prospects with the best resumes and attributes are irrelevant to the QB draft needs of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have zero shot at picking any of them. The worst teams with the biggest QB needs will draft all of these players before Dorsey can even begin to pick up the goddamn phone to call and move up.

Tell me what we gain from NOT drafting a QB in 2017 so we can draft Josh Allen, Jarrett Stidham, or Chase ****ing Litton in 2018, a FULL YEAR LONGER where Alex Smith is the only ****ing thing we have at QB.

rico · 04-13-2017, 09:08 AM

Man...I've said it before and you can all call me crazy, but the few games I watched Barkley in this last season, I shit you not, he flashed. I've never seen a supporting cast seemingly sabotage a QB the way Barkley was, whether it be repetitive drops that should have been repetitive easy catches or running for his life a quarter of a second after the ball was snapped.

Dude had his shitty moments, yeah...but he had moments where he looked really, really good...I haven't written him completely off yet.

**The Franchise** · 04-13-2017, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You have your schools wrong
Darnold and Barkley are much different quarterbacks

Care to explain where he's wrong?

**RealSNR** · 08-18-2017, 02:40 PM

Darnold is a strong possibility to stay at USC in 2018.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...2018-nfl-draft

Who could have seen this coming?

I'm honestly not going to be surprised at all if 2017's QB class produces far better QBs than 2018's. In fact, I'm probably going to laugh. Hard.

rico · 08-18-2017, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Darnold is a strong possibility to stay at USC in 2018.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...2018-nfl-draft

Who could have seen this coming?

I'm honestly not going to be surprised at all if 2017's QB class produces far better QBs than 2018's. In fact, I'm probably going to laugh. Hard.

So far this 2017 class doesn't look too shabby.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 08-18-2017, 02:45 PM

I wouldn't want to play for the Jets either, but Darnold is a fool to stay.. his stock isn't going up.

RunKC · 08-18-2017, 02:47 PM

Josh Rosen is already a big problem and he hasn't even declared. He's so much of a problem that scouts think he is the next Kapernick

Quote:

Josh Rosen is outspoken. He wore a "F--k Trump" hat to the one of the President's golf courses before Trump was elected. In an interview with Bleacher Report's Matt Hayes, Rosen talked about the difficulties of being a student-athlete. Scouts, coaches and teammates have also told me of his personality, which can come across as "uncoachable, smarter than all of us and a prick."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...lin-kaepernick

BryanBusby · 08-18-2017, 02:49 PM

In 5 years all these shitbirds are gonna act like they knew the 17 QB class waa good all along.

**RealSNR** · 11-04-2017, 05:57 PM

Bump.

Darnold's not going to Cleveland. I'll be shocked if he declares once Cleveland secures the #1 overall pick.

What are you left with? A bunch of dudes who are no better than what 2017 produced. And in many cases, the class as a whole is much worse. Maybe it's deeper in the 2nd-5th range. But not better. I don't see how you could claim it's better at this point.

Hammock Parties · 11-04-2017, 06:15 PM

More like Poodolph

**The Franchise** · 11-04-2017, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

More like Poodolph

5 QBs in the first round!\ Clay

Sassy Squatch · 11-04-2017, 06:36 PM

Baker Mayfield doesn't look too bad. Some reerun team will draft him and start him immediately to sentence him to certain doom.

Hammock Parties · 11-04-2017, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

5 QBs in the first round!\ Clay

Gotta jinx 'em all

KChiefs1 · 01-12-2018, 01:26 PM

It's definitely growing warts.

DRM08 · 01-12-2018, 02:54 PM

Excellent thread. In the end I don’t think the 2018 guys will be any better than the 2017 guys. Of the group I think KC landed the guy with bigger upside potential than anyone else from either draft class.

BryanBusby · 01-12-2018, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Baker Mayfield doesn't look too bad. Some reerun team will draft him and start him immediately to sentence him to certain doom.

While the smoke is all about Josh Allen, I think Kubes talks Elway into taking Baker at 5.

04-09-2017, 08:57 AM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2190208	Okay, so WHAT exactly is so goddamn great about the 2018 QB class? I see a loooooot of question marks here. A bunch of guys who would be 3rd or 4th rounders in THIS draft class if they declared this year. A bunch of these dudes are so young they might not even declare for the draft. And finally, we got a bunch of spread QBs who.... [gasp!]... need time to acclimate to an NFL pro style offense and develop the footwork and timing of taking snaps under center. I see Sam Darnold. That's great. There's your #1 overall. IF HE **ING DECLARES, THAT IS. I see Josh Rosen, who looked good in 2015 but could wind up as another Christian Hackenburg who never puts it all together. And I see a bunch of dried cum with question marks, JUST LIKE THIS QB DRAFT CLASS. Here's how Walter Football has them ranked: 1. Sam Darnold, USC 2. Josh Rosen, UCLA 3. Luke Falk, Washington State 4. Josh Allen, Wyoming 5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn 6. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi State 7. Chase Litton, Marshall 8. Riley Ferguson, Memphis COULD this be an awesome and deep draft class for QBs? Yes, absoutely. No question about it. But guess what. There's an equal chance that this QB class flames out and looks just as bad as the 2013 class, particularly if Sam Darnold doesn't declare. People who bitch about the 2017 class don't ing get it. They think if there's no true top end QB, that means they all suck. What do the Chiefs ing care about the quality of the top guys in a given QB draft class? We're not going to be in a position to draft them! Again, let me say this slowly, so the reeruns and assholes can hear me: In ANY GIVEN DRAFT CLASS, the top QB prospects with the best resumes and attributes are irrelevant to the QB draft needs of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have zero shot at picking any of them. The worst teams with the biggest QB needs will draft all of these players before Dorsey can even begin to pick up the goddamn phone to call and move up. Tell me what we gain from NOT drafting a QB in 2017 so we can draft Josh Allen, Jarrett Stidham, or Chase ing Litton in 2018, a FULL YEAR LONGER where Alex Smith is the only **ing thing we have at QB.
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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2289655	Baker Mayfield doesn't look too bad. Some reerun team will draft him and start him immediately to sentence him to certain doom.
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DRM08 MVP Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Texas Casino cash: $2450400	Excellent thread. In the end I don’t think the 2018 guys will be any better than the 2017 guys. Of the group I think KC landed the guy with bigger upside potential than anyone else from either draft class.
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