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Old 08-05-2007, 01:00 PM  
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Rod Gardner
So...while playing madden07 and screwing around online. In the 2nd I had Parker get injured and put out of the game. So for shits and grins I put in Rod Gardner thinking...well...he's basically the next highest rated guy I have, and if I take Hall out of the slot, it kind of messes up some of my plays I use for 3rd and long. And Web...can't catch anything.

But when I threw to Gardner... the ****er caught everything I threw at him. In madden and in real life he's a 1st rounder and is considered a bust.

So out of curiosity I do some homework...in real life, w/ the chiefs he only caught 2 passes. And it seems that after he had 1 season w/ 1006 yrds catching w/ WAS, that he's been on a steady decline once you look at his #'s. But one would also have to look at the teams he's been on. When he was w/ Washington and only got 600/650 2 years straight. The skins had a revolving door of QB's between Patrick Ramsey/Mark Brunell etc...

Then he goes to Green Bay and Brett Farve has a solid year w/ 3800 yrds passing. And then signs w/ the Chiefs after he's waived.

My question is....what's the guys problem? Can anyone tell me? Any ideas? Is it just the situation he's in or is it he's a declining player?

He's still a fairly young receiver and while inconsistant, has put up good #'s.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:02 PM   #2
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The popular opinion is that he has all the physical tools and looks the part. But hes dumb and lazy.


Pretty much the story of every 1st round bust.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:06 PM   #3
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Gardner is so dumb he puts
french ticklers on in side out
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:11 PM   #4
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.....Friggin lazy.

Lame!!!!
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:12 PM   #5
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it sounds dumb, but he is said to be really stupid
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:13 PM   #6
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...are we talking like playing w/ his shit dumb....or just southern florida dumb?
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:19 PM   #7
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Gardner is a lot like Redrum's mom. He's really, really stupid.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:23 PM   #8
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I honestly don't know how you could be do too dumb to run the same routes over and over and over...but that's what I remember being written about him when we picked him up...had trouble learning offenses..
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:23 PM   #9
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Yeah, the guy has been a bust. But he's impressing in training camp. I'm not kidding. That catch he made in the scrimmage last night was SENSATIONAL.
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Keep in mind, Eddie Kennison was a first-round bust too.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:25 PM   #11
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Receivers have to get the ball thrown to them in order to be effective. That's probably his main problem.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:25 PM   #12
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Any possibility of just letting him run loose like a chicken w/ his head cut off just for the distraction?
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Yeah, the guy has been a bust. But he's impressing in training camp. I'm not kidding. That catch he made in the scrimmage last night was SENSATIONAL.
All 1st round picks have talent. Thats why they are chosen in the 1st round.

Whether or not they have the desire, heart and mental capacity to make it in the NFL is another matter...
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...are we talking like playing w/ his shit dumb....or just southern florida dumb?
What part of southern Florida are you referring to.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:28 PM   #15
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Receivers have to get the ball thrown to them in order to be effective. That's probably his main problem.
See that's what I'm thinking. Does anyone know if he's had a problem like Parker/stone hands? Because looking at the stats he's basically had a total of at least 6 qb's throwing to him in 5 seasons. (not including KC)
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