Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Another Non Sequitur.

How is it a non sequitur when you’re praising Ryan Poles for all these good decisions outside of Edmunds and I remind you that he made one of the worst trades of the last few years?

Do you know what a non sequitur is? And why are you capitalizing it?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

How is it a non sequitur when you’re praising Ryan Poles for all these good decisions outside of Edmunds and I remind you that he made one of the worst trades of the last few years?

Do you know what a non sequitur is? And why are you capitalizing it?

Ok, they lost a 2nd round pick.

When you add in all the extra capital they already acquired, not sinking any ships.

Veach had a horrible first draft in KC and the Frank Clark trade and the Hitchens FA signing were pretty gross early moves.

None of those stopped Veach from making better moves elsewhere.

Very simple minded mindset you have there.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Ok, they lost a 2nd round pick.

When you add in all the extra capital they already acquired, not sinking any ships.

What capital are you talking about that they had acquired BEFORE they traded what turned out to be the 32nd pick in the draft for Claypool?

The trade was labeled an overpay when it happened and it looks horrific in hindsight.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

What capital are you talking about that they had acquired BEFORE they traded what turned out to be the 32nd pick in the draft for Claypool?

The trade was labeled an overpay when it happened and it looks horrific in hindsight.

So what? No GM bats 1.000

They have added more draft capital than they lost overall.

Poles is doing well so far.

If the standard is that a GM can't make a mistake then Veach sucks too.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

So what? No GM bats 1.000

They have added more draft capital than they lost overall.

Poles is doing well so far.

If the standard is that a GM can't make a mistake then Veach sucks too.

What don’t you understand here?

You went out of your way to praise him. Fine. You then went out of your way to say the only recent mistake he made was signing Edmunds. I reminded you that he also traded for Claypool which was much worse. You then pretend like I’m having some debate about how good of a GM he is when instead I’m just pointing out that you have a glaring omission when you’re complimenting him on his track record.

And fwiw - I think the Carolina trade last year was more the stupidity of that franchise than the shrewdness of Poles.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

What don’t you understand here?

You went out of your way to praise him. Fine. You then went out of your way to say the only recent mistake he made was signing Edmunds. I reminded you that he also traded for Claypool which was much worse. You then pretend like I’m having some debate about how good of a GM he is when instead I’m just pointing out that you have a glaring omission when you’re complimenting him on his track record.

And fwiw - I think the Carolina trade last year was more the stupidity of that franchise than the shrewdness of Poles.

Sure, back away now.


Anyways, back to the thread topic.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

What don’t you understand here?

You went out of your way to praise him. Fine. You then went out of your way to say the only recent mistake he made was signing Edmunds. I reminded you that he also traded for Claypool which was much worse. You then pretend like I’m having some debate about how good of a GM he is when instead I’m just pointing out that you have a glaring omission when you’re complimenting him on his track record.

And fwiw - I think the Carolina trade last year was more the stupidity of that franchise than the shrewdness of Poles.

IF Carolina took CJ and he performed the same he did for the Texans I think it would have been a good trade for them.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Shields68

IF Carolina took CJ and he performed the same he did for the Texans I think it would have been a good trade for them.

He might have been a great pick but if Stroud went to Carolina no one would be praising the Panthers.

They had no line and no weapons and poor coaching.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Shields68

IF Carolina took CJ and he performed the same he did for the Texans I think it would have been a good trade for them.

Oh, it definitely would’ve ended up being a good trade. But it felt like an overpay at the time of the trade regardless and the fact that they ended up with Young who struggled in the way everyone would’ve expected definitely is a major failure. I thought the fact that they acquired their rookie QB darling while simultaneously giving away his best offensive weapon by far was completely negligent. They needed Moore there to get a true evaluation of Young’s talents.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

So what? No GM bats 1.000

They have added more draft capital than they lost overall.

Poles is doing well so far.

If the standard is that a GM can't make a mistake then Veach sucks too.

Right or wrong Poles job evaluation comes down to getting the QB decision right. Chicago fans will monday morning QB his decision and it bette be right.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

How is it a non sequitur when you’re praising Ryan Poles for all these good decisions outside of Edmunds and I remind you that he made one of the worst trades of the last few years?

Do you know what a non sequitur is? And why are you capitalizing it?

He's extra reeruned today.