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Old 10-10-2021, 07:58 PM  
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Daniel Sorensen Is A Liability

At this point, I don’t believe Sorensen is worthy of a starting job. He has had several blown plays and several missed tackles, throughout the season. I’m not sure why we continue to trot out this scrub. For ever nice play he has, he whiffs on twice as many. Dirty Dan is detrimental to our defense. His shit an’t cutting it and I want him gone from his starting role. His play is sbyssmal.
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Old 10-11-2021, 08:51 AM   #76
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It reminds me of when Jerome Woods hit the wall. He broke his leg, then came back, had one good season, then was terrible forever.
Even that one good season had a whole lot of fan hopes/dreams behind it.

Everyone liked Woods and that broken leg was pretty gnarly. We wanted to see him succeed so badly. But I'm pretty sure he had 2 big plays that year, one on a deflected pass and one when a receiver fell down. He was clearly a step slow and needed fortunate breaks to make an impact, even in that 'good' comeback season.

And that was to be expected. He was in his 30s and coming off a major lower body injury. Of course he was going to decline. Like Sorensen in 2020, there's a pretty decent chance he was cooked even in his comeback year. He was just in the right place at the right time a few times, so we overlooked it until the following season when those breaks stopped coming and it was obvious he wasn't a player anymore.
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Old 10-11-2021, 08:57 AM   #77
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You guys are missing the point. Every time Daniel Sorensen starts an NFL game, it's a feel good story. It's Rudy-esque at this point. It shows that if you work hard enough, anything is possible in this world.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:11 AM   #78
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The lady sitting next to me at the game last night was wearing a Sorensen Jersey. I just shook my head and curbed my tongue. I wish she could have heard the evil stand up comic in my head...
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:13 AM   #79
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You guys are missing the point. Every time Daniel Sorensen starts an NFL game, it's a feel good story. It's Rudy-esque at this point. It shows that if you work hard enough, anything is possible in this world.
I literally think at this point that this is the only reason he is getting the snaps he gets......
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He can go be a feel good story on somebody else's team.
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Even that one good season had a whole lot of fan hopes/dreams behind it.

Everyone liked Woods and that broken leg was pretty gnarly. We wanted to see him succeed so badly. But I'm pretty sure he had 2 big plays that year, one on a deflected pass and one when a receiver fell down. He was clearly a step slow and needed fortunate breaks to make an impact, even in that 'good' comeback season.

And that was to be expected. He was in his 30s and coming off a major lower body injury. Of course he was going to decline. Like Sorensen in 2020, there's a pretty decent chance he was cooked even in his comeback year. He was just in the right place at the right time a few times, so we overlooked it until the following season when those breaks stopped coming and it was obvious he wasn't a player anymore.
There's a whole lot of truth to that, and I see the parallels between Woods and Sorensen - both fan favorites, both made some heady plays...to the point where they could use their football acumen to put their bodies into position to make plays after their natural athletic abilities started fade due to the combination of age and injuries...

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You guys are missing the point. Every time Daniel Sorensen starts an NFL game, it's a feel good story. It's Rudy-esque at this point. It shows that if you work hard enough, anything is possible in this world.
Need it to translate to victories, sir.
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The lady sitting next to me at the game last night was wearing a Sorensen Jersey. I just shook my head and curbed my tongue. I wish she could have heard the evil stand up comic in my head...
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:20 AM   #82
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I’m honestly at point of not watching defense when they are on field. One major reason is ****ing sorenson.

It is driving me insane that coaches are not pulling him. It plain as day he is consistently missing tackles or losing coverage.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:25 AM   #83
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There's a whole lot of truth to that, and I see the parallels between Woods and Sorensen - both fan favorites, both made some heady plays...to the point where they could use their football acumen to put their bodies into position to make plays after their natural athletic abilities started fade due to the combination of age and injuries...
Look at that '96 draft, man. Woods, Tongue, Browning and Donnie Edwards.

That's the kind of draft you'd like to see in an ordinary year. Not even a HR draft, but 4 good, solid players taken that formed a real nice group of complementary pieces.

And maybe that's what we got on the offensive side of the ball this year with Humphrey and Smith plus a good young OT in Brown.

But we've tried that a couple of times on the defensive side of the ball and it just hasn't taken. As it stands, we're fortunate to get a single good contributor to the defense in most of Veach's drafts.

He needs a '96 style draft class to build the depth of the defense and firm up its foundation. I'm not saying he needs to have the Dorsey draft record where he's snapping up All Pros and HoF talents ever year (man he had a great run). I mean - at least not every year (he needs a few of those hits on his record).

But he needs more than the 1 and done drafts we're getting on the defensive side of the football.
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Look at that '96 draft, man. Woods, Tongue, Browning and Donnie Edwards.

That's the kind of draft you'd like to see in an ordinary year. Not even a HR draft, but 4 good, solid players taken that formed a real nice group of complementary pieces.

And maybe that's what we got on the offensive side of the ball this year with Humphrey and Smith plus a good young OT in Brown.

But we've tried that a couple of times on the defensive side of the ball and it just hasn't taken. As it stands, we're fortunate to get a single good contributor to the defense in most of Veach's drafts.

He needs a '96 style draft class to build the depth of the defense and firm up its foundation. I'm not saying he needs to have the Dorsey draft record where he's snapping up All Pros and HoF talents ever year (man he had a great run). I mean - at least not every year (he needs a few of those hits on his record).

But he needs more than the 1 and done drafts we're getting on the defensive side of the football.
100% Agree. Stop swinging for the fences on projects and just get some sound players in here to stop the bleeding.

****ing case-in-point when I screamed for Logan Wilson and we got Willie Gay. Gay has been in the tub or on the sidelines while Wilson is looking like the next great... ****. Just take the good player.
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100% Agree. Stop swinging for the fences on projects and just get some sound players in here to stop the bleeding.

****ing case-in-point when I screamed for Logan Wilson and we got Willie Gay. Gay has been in the tub or on the sidelines while Wilson is looking like the next great... ****. Just take the good player.
I agree with and appreciate the occasional HR swings. Gay in particular is one that I was (am) on board with because they needed athleticism in the LB corps in the absolute worst way. And when he was playing last year, he so clearly provided it.

But if he's injury prone, that's a real problem. I don't know if that's a 'miss' because I'm not sure what his injury history was in college and if some of this could've been predicted.

But there definitely needs to be a balance. And to some degree I think Bolton represents an attempt at finding that balance. Humphrey did as well. And Snead represents the upside of taking big swings over obviously safer picks like Amik Robertson or Bryce Hall.

There's room for both approaches. But the bottom line is that he just needs to do it better. His good drafts need to have more than one defensive contributor to meaningfully change the look of this defense. His bad drafts can't be complete write-offs like 2018.

That stuff will absolutely add up on you in a hurry and we're seeing the results of it in real time.
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Ugh. The Knox play was probably the back-breaker and the bitch of it is that everyone else on the defense did their jobs.





It was defended. And they did a nice job of forcing Allen out of the pocket with a couple of trailers that were going to put pressure on him. Sneed and Thornhill had the middle taken care of, the backside WR was out of the play and Mathieu was there to drive on that out route along the sideline.

And for whatever reason, Sorensen just !@#$ing vapor locked. I have no earthly idea what he's doing there when Knox cut upfield.

He single-handedly created at touchdown from nothing. And he was asked to do nothing more than not get torched by a firmly average TE. Instead he gives him an easy release, makes his job a little harder but not impossible by any means...until he seemingly quits on the play.

He's just such a damn disaster out there.
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Dammit, Dan - you're a safety. Your job there isn't to try to undercut a deep out. You just cannot bite on a really poorly run out and up like that.

That's just as bad a rep as you'll find. Mental mistakes, physical shortcomings - the whole smash. The entire 2021 Dan Sorensen experience is distilled to its essence there. Lord.
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