Good article on Mahomes.

[Yosef_Malkovitch]

Don't care if it's a repost because I don't have time to wade through everything to check.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/8...istory-outlook

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Have you been watching camp?

They have been focusing on the deep passing game.

1st play of the preseason was a long strike to Kelce- which looked so effortless it might as well have been a dump off. I don't think the Chief's have any intention on long clock eating drives unless it is to seal a game in the 4th quarter. They want to strike fast- rack up points to turn the other team 1 dimensional and take away their running game trying to keep up.

Mahomes to Hill for a TD takes 12 seconds.

Chiefs up go up by 14 with 7 minutes left.

Instead of giving up a TD drive like they would have all last year, this time our defense stops the other team.

We get the ball back with 5 minutes left in their territory - up 14. We're not going to be throwing bombs like we might be only up 7 and on our own 25.

See what I'm saying?

Reid has never been a "rub it in" coach like BB and Sean Payton have been at times. It's just not his style - nor is it Mahomes style. We don't need to give teams an excuse to cheap shot Mahomes.

[Lprechaun]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

They want to strike fast- rack up points to turn the other team 1 dimensional and take away their running game trying to keep up.

This exactly. When you KNOW you can do something you do it. If the defense gets stops great, but as of right now do what you know for a fact you can do.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The NFL may be just finally realizing how good he is for the game. I still don't think that they get it since they still continue to pump up bland teams like the chargers and rivers. I'd venture to say he's the most important thing to happen to the NFL since Peyton Manning. Exciting to watch, super duper likeable, and I can't stress enough how great his Twitter game is. I don't know that we've seen much like this. Rodgers and brees are superstars but theyre also pretty boring when they're not taking snaps.

Brees is boring, but a cool dude. Rodgers is just a dick. Completely unlikeable off the field.

Mahomes is the golden boy. He was sculpted in a lab to be a star QB. As long as he balls out to start the season (he will) he’s gonna dominate football talk. I can get the skepticism from some since it really is “just one season”, but we all know it wasn’t a fluke lol.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Chiefs up go up by 14 with 7 minutes left.

Instead of giving up a TD drive like they would have all last year, this time our defense stops the other team.

We get the ball back with 5 minutes left in their territory - up 14. We're not going to be throwing bombs like we might be only up 7 and on our own 25.

See what I'm saying?

Reid has never been a "rub it in" coach like BB and Sean Payton have been at times. It's just not his style - nor is it Mahomes style. We don't need to give teams an excuse to cheap shot Mahomes.

I agree completely- that is why I put 4th quarter drives.

4 TD's a game passing could be the average for this offense for how loaded it is. How many TD's will Mahomes get on simple little shovel passes to Hardman and Reek who take them all the way? Or 10 yard slants to Watkins who breaks it open for a score?

Not all of his passing TD's will be bombs- with teams worried about the deep ball- the short gains should be wide open all day. And we have the guys that can take these to the house.

We play some tough teams- so I have my doubts that this defense will be able to shut them down and protect leads. We need to score every drive- no matter how much we are up.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Chiefs up go up by 14 with 7 minutes left.

Instead of giving up a TD drive like they would have all last year, this time our defense stops the other team.

We get the ball back with 5 minutes left in their territory - up 14. We're not going to be throwing bombs like we might be only up 7 and on our own 25.

See what I'm saying?

Reid has never been a "rub it in" coach like BB and Sean Payton have been at times. It's just not his style - nor is it Mahomes style. We don't need to give teams an excuse to cheap shot Mahomes.

Ehhhhhhh Reid can be cheeky man. I mean, Dontari Poe threw a TD pass when the game was over, if that isn’t flexing I don’t know what is. And Andy loves to flex his toys.

[suzzer99]

Denver fans still bitch about that one too.

We've got the golden goose to protect now.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Lprechaun

This exactly. When you KNOW you can do something you do it. If the defense gets stops great, but as of right now do what you know for a fact you can do.

Other guys that have been up to camp watching might have a different opinion- but what I am seeing is a different philosophy from Andy that I have never seen.

I mean, good lord- how many bombs has Mahomes thrown for TD's in camp so far? Amazing!

The Ferrari is out of the garage and in top racing shape!

[Andoverer]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Chiefs up go up by 14 with 7 minutes left.

Instead of giving up a TD drive like they would have all last year, this time our defense stops the other team.

We get the ball back with 5 minutes left in their territory - up 14. We're not going to be throwing bombs like we might be only up 7 and on our own 25.

See what I'm saying?

Reid has never been a "rub it in" coach like BB and Sean Payton have been at times. It's just not his style - nor is it Mahomes style. We don't need to give teams an excuse to cheap shot Mahomes.

Maybe this is true, but maybe Reid will never forget (HE BETTER NOT) how much we lead the Colts at halftime a few playoff seasons ago. The game sure seemed out of reach for the Colts at that moment

I say keep the pedal to the metal until the other team is mathematically eliminated enough to not be able to score enough to come back and bite you, cuz that playoff bite was one of the worst I've ever known.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Andoverer

Maybe this is true, but maybe Reid will never forget (HE BETTER NOT) how much we lead the Colts at halftime a few playoff seasons ago. The game sure seemed out of reach for the Colts at that moment

I say keep the pedal to the metal until the other team is mathematically eliminated enough to not be able to score enough to come back and bite you, cuz that playoff bite was one of the worst I've ever known.

We saw this with the Steelers game last year- it looked like a blowout- then with some help from the refs and a Conley fumble, they were right back in it.

I think we are going to see the Chiefs put up 35 to 45 a game this year. I am just not sure how you stop them without keeping them off the field.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Chiefs up go up by 14 with 7 minutes left.

Instead of giving up a TD drive like they would have all last year, this time our defense stops the other team.

We get the ball back with 5 minutes left in their territory - up 14. We're not going to be throwing bombs like we might be only up 7 and on our own 25.

See what I'm saying?

Reid has never been a "rub it in" coach like BB and Sean Payton have been at times. It's just not his style - nor is it Mahomes style. We don't need to give teams an excuse to cheap shot Mahomes.

I hope that mentality changes. Not that we should run up the score. But I'm tired of Andy Reid sitting on leads only to let the defense crawl back into a game we should be blowing out. My hope is that mahomes becomes powerful and smart enough to push back against Reid when he does that. He may be too young to have earned that right but should be there soon hopefully

[Shaid]

I think that's just it, Mahomes is basically wired to go score. He's going to do that the easiest way and it just leads us to score quickly. That should help. Other teams will probably try slow drives to keep our offense off the field and keep it close, hope a mistake lets them get up on us or at least keep up.

There will be times that it will come down to who can score last. That's where we didn't do well last year, we scored too fast and gave the other team time to score again. If I see one weakness in Mahomes, it's that he needs to be able to grind down that clock. It's how the Pats win all the damn time. So many close games where they just don't give the other team time to score at the end. They know how to ice the game. Pat learns that and I have zero doubt he'll have multiple Superbowls and be regarded as the GOAT. He's a supernatural talent with great smarts and character. Just learn to ice the game.

[RedRaider56]

nice article. thanks for posting.

[T-post Tom]

Goosebumps. Goosebumps. Goosebumps.

Excellent read. Thank you for posting.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Chiefs up go up by 14 with 7 minutes left.

Instead of giving up a TD drive like they would have all last year, this time our defense stops the other team.

We get the ball back with 5 minutes left in their territory - up 14. We're not going to be throwing bombs like we might be only up 7 and on our own 25.

See what I'm saying?

Reid has never been a "rub it in" coach like BB and Sean Payton have been at times. It's just not his style - nor is it Mahomes style. We don't need to give teams an excuse to cheap shot Mahomes.

Up by 14 with 5min left isn’t a slam dunk.. anything can happen.. INT for a TD.. fumble.. punt return TD.. then an onside kick .. up 21 is the scenario I’d like better..

[CoMoChief]

Ive said this a thousand times...and so have others...

Just because Mahomes doesn't put up the same numbers as he did in 2018, doesn't necessarily mean he's regressed.

If the defense steps up, and the Chiefs are in position more to step on throat of their opponent, run the clock more at the end of the game rather than constantly play in shootouts, then his numbers won't be as inflated.

But if he's putting offense in position to score more, and the Chiefs are punting less, then he's getting better...getting better at moving the chains and staying on the field and getting the ball into the endzone is what matters most.

Sure that sounds conservative...I'm all for scoring TD's every time Mahomes touches the ball...but situational football is ok when it's called for.