Evaluate the Defense Game #1

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

The defense knocked out their starting QB with a big hit by Jones and Clark, didn't allow Fornette to go over 100 yards rushing and held the Jags to 13 points for most of the game until it was already over.

The Foles TD was basically perfect coverage by Fuller- pretty hard to defend that. Minshew was dumping the ball off on most every pass except a few lucky ones on a blown coverage. It was hot and the D was also playing together for the first meaningful game.

The Offense scored every time we had the ball until the clock ran out to end the game.

Not sure why people are treating this as a loss and the D still sucks?

Speaking for myself, it's about expectations ... specifically from the premier acquisitions (Clark and Mathieu) and the rebuilt linebacker group playing against this specific team's offense.

This wasn't the Lambs or the Immigrant Blowjobbers. This was the Yaguars.

When I take into consideration the strength of their o-line and their skill players, I am very disappointed that they couldn't shut those guys down in humiliating fashion.

Mathieu had 2 tackles and 1 assist. Clark had 1 tackle total on the day. Other than Wilson and Hitch (5 tackles each), the linebacker group often looked confused and I don't think they had a single tackle between them.

Again, I haven't seen the All-22 and I don't know the calls, so what do I know? But based on the eye-test and the stats, I am far from impressed. It was the damn Yaguars with a barber-shop tenor at QB and there's no way (in my mind) that they should have been that effective.

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[R Clark]

Originally Posted by FAX

Speaking for myself, it's about expectations ... specifically from the premier acquisitions (Clark and Mathieu) and the rebuilt linebacker group playing against this specific team's offense.

This wasn't the Lambs or the Immigrant Blowjobbers. This was the Yaguars.

When I take into consideration the strength of their o-line and their skill players, I am very disappointed that they couldn't shut those guys down in humiliating fashion.

Mathieu had 2 tackles and 1 assist. Clark had 1 tackle total on the day. Other than Wilson and Hitch (5 tackles each), the linebacker group often looked confused and I don't think they had a single tackle between them.

Again, I haven't seen the All-22 and I don't know the calls, so what do I know? But based on the eye-test and the stats, I am far from impressed. It was the damn Yaguars with a barber-shop tenor at QB and there's no way (in my mind) that they should have been that effective.

FAX

I must be reerun cause I sure thought Wilson , hitchens was linebackers? Had I been right about that by your calculations the linebackers would have had at least 10 tackles . In a 4-3 isn’t three linebackers on the field?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by R Clark

I must be reerun cause I sure thought Wilson , hitchens was linebackers? Had I been right about that by your calculations the linebackers would have had at least 10 tackles . In a 4-3 isn’t three linebackers on the field?

They didn't play much base, Hitchens played 100% of the snaps, Wilson was at like 85 and Darron Lee played like 10 plays as the 3rd LB.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by Mecca

They didn't play much base, Hitchens played 100% of the snaps, Wilson was at like 85 and Darron Lee played like 10 plays as the 3rd LB.

So how would you rate the lb play?

[FAX]

Originally Posted by R Clark

I must be reerun cause I sure thought Wilson , hitchens was linebackers? Had I been right about that by your calculations the linebackers would have had at least 10 tackles . In a 4-3 isn’t three linebackers on the field?

You might be, but I doubt it, Mr. R. Clark. I stated that in a confusing manner. What I attempted to say was that "other than" Hitch and Wilson, the linebackers didn't stat a solo tackle (Lee had an assist).

Digging a little deeper, the linebacker stats seem better than I originally thought (again, I still haven't seen the All-22).

Lee had something like 8 or 10 snaps (depending on which source you use ... some places have us playing 58 defensive snaps others have us at 51 ... probably due to eliminating penalty snaps ... and I didn't take the time to count them myself). Either way, Hitch is listed as the only linebacker to play 100% of the snaps. Wilson had about 80%.

As for the way they used the linebackers in the scheme, it wasn't a base 4-3 from the get-go. They mixed it up a bit. It appeared that they entered the game in a "nickle" (or something similar) with 3 corners, 2 safeties, 2 linebackers, and 4 down linemen.

FAX